On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Jon Delfin<[email protected]> wrote: > > The joke about the waders wasn't the revenge. The "apology" that > followed, I expect, will become the running gag that will be (or will > be intended to be).
Dave has been milking the "apology" joke ever since he first made it (I think it is funny, but besides the point here). I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding of what Dave originally did with Palin anyway. The joke she says she was offended by was not mostly about her or her children, it was mostly aimed at ARod. Of course I suspect that what really pissed off Palin was the slutty flight attendant joke. Similarly, most of Dave's Palin jokes since have been at least partly self-depreciating (I did like his line the other day that if Palin had been elected in November, she would have been the most attractive VP since Spiro Agnew, and "Palin is going to take the summer off, and then will come back next fall in the 10 o'clock slot."). If they thought Dave was going to back off Palin, then they were wrong, but if anyone thinks Dave is going to start Nalin Palin, I think they are wrong too. It is Conan who has been telling more biting Palin jokes over the last couple of weeks (so much so that recently I have been thinking he is consciously doing it to try to goad her into picking a fight with him too, for the ratings). Here are a couple of his Palin jokes that I could find transcriptions of: ""Over the weekend, Sarah Palin shocked the country by resigning as governor of Alaska. Out of nowhere. It's crazy. She resigned. Yeah, Republicans aren't sure who is going to fill her role in the party. But they are in talks with several of the Real Housewives of New Jersey." and "In her resignation speech, Sarah Palin said she polled her children on whether she should resign and the count was unanimous. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, even her children thought she was in over her head." Last night he told several variations on a joke of Palin as quitter (one was something like "Palin has a new book out - Alaskan suporters are reading half way through and then quitting"). I have now actually seen more of Conan's Tonight Show than I saw of Jay Leno during all but his first year of hosting the Tonight Show. A couple of things strike me: 1) He is still very uncomfortable on that stage - maybe it is the big hall or the 11:35 pressure. He really seems to miss the silly antics he used to do while the crowd applauded his introduction, and now doesn't seem to know what to do with himself. He warms up through the monologue, and is often pretty comfortable during his comedy bits, but he is still the worst of the major late night interviewers (I don't count that guy doing the 12:30 show on NBC as major). 2) He sounds most like the old Conan when he is doing that Twitter bit. They can't do that too often I know, but they need to find more bits with that voice, because that is his comfy zone. 3) he still panders too much to the LA audience. Southern California is not Detroit or Pittsburgh or Twin Falls and they don't need Conan to weave local color meaninglessly into his jokes (and God, we surly don't need more LA vs NYC jokes). Making fun of the Clippers seems to be the way late night comics think they are making themselves real Angelinos, but I grew up in LA, am a big NBA fan, have lots of NBA watching family and friends there - nobody gives a damn about the Clippers (not even Billy Crystal anymore). You would make more hay making fun of the LA Sparks than the Clippers. If you need a go to LA sports joke, I would make it be about their absent NFL franchise, which really is burn to sports fans down there. 4) While Conan's jokes are not always funny or well delivered (and they had some kind of melt down earlier in the week where he an Andy just completely screwed up what they were doing, and to my eyes not in a particularly funny or endearing way), he is much more biting in his jokes than either I remember him being at 12:30, or than Dave has been. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
