Thought some of you folks might like to take a look at my Fall Preview. I've 
done it each year since 2002.

http://fallpreview.letterten.com

On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/topics
> 
> Harlan Ellison preparing to die [1 Update]
> "Stephen Colbert" appears at House Judiciary Subcommittee Meeting [3 Updates]
> Zucker leaving when Comcast takes over [4 Updates]
> Drew Carey's dramatic weight loss [4 Updates]
> Interesting '30 Rock' moment (MINOR SPOILERS) [3 Updates]
> Katy Perry 'Sesame Street' appearance yanked off the air [2 Updates]
> NBC/Universal signs/extends deal with Netflix [1 Update]
> Quickie Review: Detroit 187 [2 Updates]
> What's In Bing Crosby's Wine Cellar? [1 Update]
> Bones in-season repeats? [2 Updates]
> Now that the season is starting [2 Updates]
>  Topic: Harlan Ellison preparing to die
> "Kevin M." <[email protected]> Sep 24 04:38PM -0700 ^
>  
> One of my favorite writers (whom I had the extreme privilege of
> meeting when I was interning on The Tom Snyder Show) says the end is
> near, and his next convention appearance (this weekend at MadCon) will
> be his last. He's also given orders that anything he hasn't finished
> by the time he drops is to be destroyed.
>  
> If you haven't read his work or seen his scripts produced on screen, I
> would highly recommend finding a used copy of "The Glass Teat," a
> collection of his work as a TV critic at the long-gone LA Free Press.
> The man has a genuine gift for injecting reality into fantasy and
> breathing life into fictional characters.
>  
> http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=30610
> -- 
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>  
>  Topic: "Stephen Colbert" appears at House Judiciary Subcommittee Meeting
> Joe Hass <[email protected]> Sep 24 02:17PM -0500 ^
>  
> Colbert's character went to a vegetable farm in NY earlier in the
> year, and was invited to speak as part of the Subcommittee on
> Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International
> Law.
>  
> After being asked to leave by Rep John Conyers, only to be rebuffed by
> the committee chair who invited him, Colbert gave an opening statement
> and answered questions from the panel, including Rep Peter King's
> bizarre attempt to somehow spin a comment Colbert made on his show
> into a "gotcha" moment. He dropped character only at the end, when
> asked why he chose to do this (which is the video clip at the bottom).
>  
> Chicagoist: http://chicagoist.com/2010/09/24/colbert_takes_on_congress.php
> Colbert's closing statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptZO9Kk1cWI
>  
> David Bruggeman <[email protected]> Sep 24 03:35PM -0700 ^
>  
> A link to the hearing website, where you can read Colbert's written 
> testimony. 
> It veers notably from his spoken remarks, at least according to old man 
> Conyers.
>  
> http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/hear_100924.html
>  
>  
> A link to the webcast (Real Audio, I think).
>  
> http://judiciary.edgeboss.net/real-live/judiciary/17223/256_judiciary-coj_2141_070212.smi
>  
>  
> Rep. Chaffetz from Utah described Colbert as a fake newscaster (that would be 
> Stewart, but whatever) going to a fake hearing. He should remember that 
> Colbert 
> has video of Chaffetz losing badly, and repeatedly, to Colbert in leg 
> wrestling.
>  
>  
> http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/215453/january-08-2009/leg-wrestling-rematch
>  
>  
>  
>  
> ________________________________
> From: Joe Hass <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 3:17:51 PM
> Subject: [TV orNotTV] "Stephen Colbert" appears at House Judiciary 
> Subcommittee 
> Meeting
>  
> Colbert's character went to a vegetable farm in NY earlier in the
> year, and was invited to speak as part of the Subcommittee on
> Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International
> Law.
>  
> After being asked to leave by Rep John Conyers, only to be rebuffed by
> the committee chair who invited him, Colbert gave an opening statement
> and answered questions from the panel, including Rep Peter King's
> bizarre attempt to somehow spin a comment Colbert made on his show
> into a "gotcha" moment. He dropped character only at the end, when
> asked why he chose to do this (which is the video clip at the bottom).
>  
> Chicagoist: http://chicagoist.com/2010/09/24/colbert_takes_on_congress.php
> Colbert's closing statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptZO9Kk1cWI
>  
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> Greg Diener <[email protected]> Sep 24 04:37PM -0700 ^
>  
> > Stewart, but whatever) going to a fake hearing.  He should remember that 
> > Colbert
> > has video of Chaffetz losing badly, and repeatedly, to Colbert in leg 
> > wrestling.
>  
> > http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/215453/january...
>  
> Not to mention also doing badly on Stephen's own song in Rock Band on
> Easy Mode.
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG-UUmI4loI
>  
>  Topic: Zucker leaving when Comcast takes over
> Steve Rhodes <[email protected]> Sep 24 09:07AM -0700 ^
>  
> Even though they kept insisting he would stay, even though his
> contract was extended
> last year to 2013
>  
> http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/cnbc-zucker-wont-make-comcast-merger/
>  
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>  
> Gil Templeton <[email protected]> Sep 24 04:35PM ^
>  
> Hmmm...article, and the email, does make you wonder what Comcast is up to. 
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Rhodes" <[email protected]> 
> To: "tvornottv" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 11:07:21 AM 
> Subject: [TV orNotTV] Zucker leaving when Comcast takes over 
>  
> Even though they kept insisting he would stay, even though his 
> contract was extended 
> last year to 2013 
>  
> http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/cnbc-zucker-wont-make-comcast-merger/ 
>  
>  
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>  
> Steve Rhodes <[email protected]> Sep 24 10:09AM -0700 ^
>  
> New York Times has an interview.
>  
> He says it was a mistake to move Leno to Prime Time but doesn't
> mention how badly he handled Conan
>  
> He admits he didn't leave voluntarily (ie he was fired)
>  
> http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/zucker-announces-departure-from-nbc/
>  
>  
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>  
> Steve Rhodes <[email protected]> Sep 24 04:07PM -0700 ^
>  
> From an interview with Hollywood Reporter (if this is all he can say
> about how badly
> he screwed up with Conan & Leno, he better never run for political office):
>  
> Zucker: I regret how publicly that played out. But that was just an
> example of not being afraid to take a chance. That one didn't work
> out. In 24 1/2 years, I made thousands and thousands of decisions
> here, and in the aggregate most of them worked.
>  
> THR: But there has long been negative press about you. How much of
> that have you read and how much does it bother you?
>  
> Zucker: I think a lot of people were disappointed about our ability to
> turn around NBC Entertainment, and that caused a lot of sniping, and
> that was incredibly unfortunate. If you take a step back and judge us
> based on our overall performance, it's been pretty spectacular, and I
> feel very good about it. I have a tremendous perspective on life. I
> have endured a lot of health issues in my life. Those were painful.
> What people want to say doesn't compare.
>  
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i59a76af7935531184f56c1ba9e46ebec
>  
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>  
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>  
>  Topic: Drew Carey's dramatic weight loss
> "Kevin M." <[email protected]> Sep 24 12:28PM -0700 ^
>  
> I don't generally sit around reading Parade magazine, but HuffPo
> linked to this article and since the Scottish Conan Guy has mentioned
> it a few times recently, I thought I'd read up on Drew.
>  
> http://www.parade.com/health/2010/09/26-drew-carey.html?index=1
>  
> I certainly need to follow in his (much thinner) footsteps.
>  
> -- 
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>  
> Joe Hass <[email protected]> Sep 24 02:32PM -0500 ^
>  
> Right Kevin. "Huffington Post." Admit it: you're really reading it for
> the Howard Huge cartoons.
>  
>  
>  
> "Kevin M." <[email protected]> Sep 24 01:13PM -0700 ^
>  
> > Right Kevin. "Huffington Post." Admit it: you're really reading it for
> > the Howard Huge cartoons.
>  
> I confess. Parade has been my periodical of choice ever since they
> stopped publishing Highlights magazine.
>  
> -- 
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>  
> "Jim Ellwanger" <[email protected]> Sep 24 02:23PM -0700 ^
>  
> Kevin M. wrote:
> >> the Howard Huge cartoons.
>  
> > I confess. Parade has been my periodical of choice ever since they
> > stopped publishing Highlights magazine.
>  
> 1. Highlights magazine is still being published.
> 2. Howard Huge is no longer a regular feature in Parade.
>  
> So you see why I'm on a TV-related mailing list, but no reading-related
> mailing lists.
>  
> -- 
> Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]>
> <http://www.ellwanger.tv>
>  
>  Topic: Interesting '30 Rock' moment (MINOR SPOILERS)
> Steve Timko <[email protected]> Sep 24 12:32PM -0700 ^
>  
> What do others think about Kenneth the Page turning up working at CBS' "Late
> Show With David Letterman?"
> Letterman is clearly a fan of "30 Rock" and has no problem shilling for the
> show or Tina Fey.
> At some level I couldn't wonder if someone was sending a signal that "30
> Rock" might go to NBC if the new Kabletown team dumps it. Of course, it
> wouldn't be called "30 Rock" any more. And Alec Baldwin has already
> announced his depature. But couldn't it get people work for another season
> or two if it went to another network?
>  
> Joe Coughlin <[email protected]> Sep 24 04:06PM -0400 ^
>  
> > wouldn't be called "30 Rock" any more. And Alec Baldwin has already
> > announced his depature. But couldn't it get people work for another season
> > or two if it went to another network?
>  
> Actually there was another point of interest that has caused discomfort for
> many people last night. In the episode Pete has sex with his sleeping
> wife...now, while that may have been previously consented to, that consent
> was not mentioned and instead we have two shots of Paula getting sexxed. The
> issue many have is that because it was not clearly labeled, it can be read
> as Pete raping his wife.
>  
> Bad decision-making by the ususally on-top-of-it 30 Rock team.
>  
>  
>  
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> -- 
> +++++++++++++++
> Joe Coughlin
> http://www.twitter.com/inturnaround
>  
> Joe Hass <[email protected]> Sep 24 03:40PM -0500 ^
>  
> There is much discussion of this over on Sepinwall's Hitfix post.
>  
> I mentioned a while back that I actually caught up on the entire
> series of 30 Rock over the summer. My take was this: Sepinwall was
> right that, inevitably, Paula and Pete have undoubtedly done far, far
> worse, and the series has noted this over time. But the key was that
> you had to *know* this for that joke to not hit the nerve it hit. I
> didn't take the joke the way other people took it, but I had to be
> reminded of the Paula/Pete connection, and I just watched the last
> three seasons in the past month and a half. Without a resource to
> quickly see when the last time the show reminded us of that fact, I
> completely get the fact that people were very uncomfortable with the
> joke.
>  
> This probably sounds insane, but had they done some sort of
> Paula/Pete/outrageously kinky comment in this episode, then used this
> joke in the next one, it may have been slightly muted, because it
> would've been fresh in their minds.
>  
> Alan Sepinwall: http://sn.im/161u6o
>  
>  
>  
>  Topic: Katy Perry 'Sesame Street' appearance yanked off the air
> Bob in Jersey <[email protected]> Sep 24 10:45AM -0700 ^
>  
> Sesame Workshop's next tack will be to parody "True Blood", sez the
> NYDN ('toob available)
>  
> http://ow.ly/2JugY
>  
>  
>  
> --
> BOB
>  
> Joe Hass <[email protected]> Sep 24 01:10PM -0500 ^
>  
> Elmo goes on GMA this morning to say he had a good time and wants to
> have another play date with "Miss Katy."
>  
> NY Times: http://sn.im/160v66
>  
>  
>  
>  Topic: NBC/Universal signs/extends deal with Netflix
> Joe Hass <[email protected]> Sep 24 12:19PM -0500 ^
>  
> Entire series of Friday Night Lights, Psych, In Plain Sight, and Monk.
> All seasons except the current one for 30 Rock, The Office and Law &
> Order: SVU. And more.
>  
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/netflix-inks-deal-with-nbc-universal-to-beef-up-watch-instantly/18308
>  
> This just makes their "99 cents cheapens the value of the programming"
> argument even more fallacious.
>  
> Joe Hass
> Warren, MI
>  
>  Topic: Quickie Review: Detroit 187
> Bob in Jersey <[email protected]> Sep 24 10:37AM -0400 ^
>  
> Wasn't there a series version of "RoboCop"?
>  
>  
>  
> -- 
> BOB
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>  
> "Mike B." <[email protected]> Sep 24 10:11AM -0700 ^
>  
> According to FlashForward, they play at Oxide Energy Stadium.
>  
> Other Detroit-based series include Home Improvement and Martin, even
> though neither of those even attempted to film in Michigan.
>  
> The amount of hype around here for this is pretty surprising. That's
> just how depressed this part of the world is.
>  
>  
>  Topic: What's In Bing Crosby's Wine Cellar?
> Joe Hass <[email protected]> Sep 24 12:09PM -0500 ^
>  
> Baseball historians have been searching for a full recording of Game 7
> of the 1960 World Series (Bill Mazeroski's home run in the bottom of
> the ninth to win the game 10-9 and the series for the Pirates). It
> will air on MLB Network in December.
>  
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/sports/baseball/24crosby.html
>  
>  Topic: Bones in-season repeats?
> Bob in Jersey <[email protected]> Sep 24 07:36AM -0700 ^
>  
> televisiongirl, to moi:
> > Last season's finale is on TNT Wednesday, October 6th at 9PM.  I'm guessing
> > tonight's premiere shows up a week later.
>  
> Meaning it won't show up on Zap2it/TVGuide till next Wednesday, the
> 29th at the earliest. I would normally check that night no later than
> the 4th.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
>  
>  
> --
> BOB
>  
> David Risner <[email protected]> Sep 24 08:57AM -0700 ^
>  
> I know mother's don't usually like to use Hulu, but last night's Bones is
> available on Hulu today.
>  
> -- 
> David Risner
> Software Engineer
> MERLOT, California State University
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  Topic: Now that the season is starting
> David Risner <[email protected]> Sep 24 08:55AM -0700 ^
>  
> First, sitcoms are what I like to watch the most on TV. The summer was
> brutal because there weren't any new sitcoms other than the last, great My
> Boys. I did go through a lot of old Wings thanks to USA over the summer,
> still a wonderful sitcom. I don't really like the mockumentary style
> though, so I'm not an fan of the NBC Thursday night stuff other than 30
> Rock. Laugh tracks don't bother me in the appropriate shows. 30 Rock would
> not work with a laugh track, M*A*S*H should not have had a laugh track, but
> it works in The Big Bang Theory (well, technically, not a laugh track, but a
> live studio audience).
>  
> While the Shat show wasn't great, I didn't think it was as bad as the
> critics all said. It felt kind of stiff, but a lot of sitcom pilots do. I'm
> going to give it a few episodes before making final judgment, but of the new
> sitcoms I sampled, this was the worst.
>  
> I tried The Middle again with the last two episodes of last season and the
> first episode of this season. I don't get why it was renewed.
>  
> Better With You & Raising Hope were both good starts -- especially Raising
> Hope which I was surprised to enjoy.
>  
> Mike & Molly might develop into something good like The Big Bang Theory did;
> we'll have to see.
>  
> Running Wilde I didn't even try because it has Will Arnett and I didn't like
> Arrested Development, so I figured it wasn't the show for me. YMMV.
>  
> I wish there were more good sitcoms on TV. It just seems like for every TBBT
> or Modern Family, there are 4 or 5 mediocre police/crime dramas.
>  
> -- 
> David Risner
> Software Engineer
> MERLOT, California State University
>  
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>  
>  
> Jason Carpio <[email protected]> Sep 24 10:57AM -0500 ^
>  
> I really like Community, more so than TBBT and Cougar Town
>  
>  
>  
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> Jason Carpio
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