Dark Umber is a dark brown. It comes from an oil paint name and umber is
the pigment.
My Sony VAIO laptop was called wenge which is a brown African wood.
It's just fancy advertising, like trying to make the food sound better on
the menu.

Mark

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/topics
>
>    - NBC generous with online eps <#134601035fdffcd1_group_thread_0> [3
>    Updates]
>    - 'Bloopers' to return <#134601035fdffcd1_group_thread_1> [4 Updates]
>    - 'Hung' out to dry, too Bored to Death to Make it in 
> America<#134601035fdffcd1_group_thread_2>[1 Update]
>    - HBO Cleans Out Half-Hours (But Keeps 
> 'Enlightened')<#134601035fdffcd1_group_thread_3>[1 Update]
>    - OFF TOPIC Computer repair <#134601035fdffcd1_group_thread_4> [3
>    Updates]
>    - So long, Michele O'Callaghan <#134601035fdffcd1_group_thread_5> [5
>    Updates]
>    - More Palin on TLC? <#134601035fdffcd1_group_thread_6> [1 Update]
>
>   NBC generous with online 
> eps<http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/b89bef148b7ad596>
>
>    Bob in Jersey <[email protected]> Dec 20 12:40PM -0800
>
>    It doesn't matter which series, they'll all be available, all episodes
>    from this season (and at least in a few cases, back into last), till
>    after the New Year.
>
>
>    
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/nbc-offers-full-season-holiday-275407
>
>
>
>    --
>    BOB
>
>
>
>
>    donz5 <[email protected]> Dec 20 01:02PM -0800
>
>    I first read the subject line as "NBC generous with online
>    encapsulated postscript.." Which was confusing at best.
>
>
>
>
>
>    Bob in Jersey <[email protected]> Dec 20 02:09PM -0800
>
>    Donz5, to moi:
>    > I first read the subject line as "NBC generous with online
>    > encapsulated postscript.." Which was confusing at best.
>
>    Candy is dandy, but Adobe is quicker.
>
>
>
>    --
>    BOB
>
>
>
>   'Bloopers' to 
> return<http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/17e1fc3f413bf538>
>
>    Bob in Jersey <[email protected]> Dec 20 12:24PM -0800
>
>    And that's its whole title, not "TV's Bloopers and Practical Jokes,"
>    tho dick clark productions is still involved. WGN, WPIX, and a bunch
>    of other Tribs (but not WPHL, for some reason) bought it.
>
>    Nellie A: http://goo.gl/yz4pp
>
>
>
>    --
>    BOB
>
>
>
>
>    "Kevin M." <[email protected]> Dec 20 01:47PM -0800
>
>    Yes, but will it feature clever animated drawings by Sergio Aragones?
>    If not, screw it.
>
>
>    --
>    Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
>
>
>    Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> Dec 20 03:57PM -0600
>
>    Sergio's doing his "Drawn-Out Dramas" for CN's televersion of "MAD."
>    They
>    pop up a couple of times per episode in black-and-white in as close to
>    a
>    "Marginal Thinking Dept." as you can get and are always welcome.
>
>    Mark Jeffries
>    Saints Spotlight Editor
>    [email protected]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    "Kevin M." <[email protected]> Dec 20 02:05PM -0800
>
>    > Sergio's doing his "Drawn-Out Dramas" for CN's televersion of "MAD."
>
>    I haven't seen more than a few segments of MAD, but I enjoy it
>    infinitely more than the abysmal yawn-fest that was MADtv. At least,
>    it is more in keeping with the magazine, as opposed to mere bad sketch
>    comedy by people who make Jimmy Fallon look skilled.
>
>
>    --
>    Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
>
>   'Hung' out to dry, too Bored to Death to Make it in 
> America<http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/9f0e57624117fd02>
>
>    Ron Casalotti <[email protected]> Dec 20 12:32PM -0800
>
>    All three comedies canceled by HBO. Additional series to come
>    (including 'Luck" whose pilot I found very laborious to watch).
>
>
>    
> http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/20/hbo-cancels-comedies-picks-up-enlightened/
>
>    Ron Casalotti
>    Wayne, NJ
>    Twitter: @roncasalotti
>    Blog: http://roncasalotti.wordpress.com
>
>
>
>   HBO Cleans Out Half-Hours (But Keeps 
> 'Enlightened')<http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/f1e2aba866ee1b3a>
>
>    Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> Dec 20 12:29PM -0800
>
>    The Mike White sitcom starring Laura Dern, which initially was panned
>    but followed Barnhart's Rule of Premium Channel Shows in getting
>    better as it went along, according to some critics, got renewed--gone
>    after three years are the male pimp sitcom "Hung" (despite Thomas
>    Jane's Golden Globe nomination) and the Zach Galfanakis/Ted Danson
>    show "Bored to Death," while "How to Make It in America" leaves after
>    two seasons:
>
>
>    
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/12/hbo-renews-enlightened-cancels-hung-bored-to-death-how-to-make-it-in-america/
>
>    "Enlightened" may be the only returning live-action half-hour on HBO
>    next year (unless Larry David decides to do another season of "Curb
>    Your Enthusiasm")--among the new shows are Ricky Gervais' midgetcom
>    "Life's Too Short," which has already aired on BBC2 in the UK.
>
>
>
>   OFF TOPIC Computer 
> repair<http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/d97385b0006295e3>
>
>    "Melissa PollaK" <[email protected]> Dec 20 11:50AM -0500
>
>    Well, they're doing the repairs for $200. Hope I made the right
>    decision.
>
>
>
>    From: Melissa PollaK [mailto:[email protected]]
>    Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:24 PM
>    To: '[email protected]'
>    Subject: OFF TOPIC Computer repair
>
>
>
>    $350 to fix a 4-year-old Dell laptop with Vista operating system. Or,
>    just
>    buy a new one?
>
>
>
>    Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>    Melissa
>
>
>
>
>    David Risner <[email protected]> Dec 20 09:43AM -0800
>
>    For $200, I think you should be good.
>
>    Sounds like there will be some neat stuff coming out next year with
>    the new generation of Ultrabooks (very thin & light laptops similar to
>    the MacBook Air) coming out, and the cost of solid state drives coming
>    down. It is probably worth your while keeping this one running for
>    another year with the $200 repair.
>
>    --
>    David Risner
>    Software Engineer
>    MERLOT, California State University
>
>
>
>    On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Melissa PollaK
>
>
>
>
>    "Melissa PollaK" <[email protected]> Dec 20 01:44PM -0500
>
>    I've been thinking along the same lines.
>
>    I'm really intrigued by the Beats audio featured on certain HP
>    machines.
>    Just this morning I was thinking that their price will probably drop
>    next
>    year. (And, maybe they'll come in real colors, e.g., what is dark
>    "umber"?)
>
>    Also, lighter (in weight) has been a big priority since the time I
>    dragged
>    the Dell to Las Vegas and Memphis, experiences which resulted in the
>    purchase of the netbook as soon as they went on the market.
>
>    BTW I do now own a tablet. I bought one of those fire-sale HP
>    Touchpads,
>    and I think it's nifty although I've barely had any time to play with
>    it.
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>    Behalf Of David Risner
>    Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:44 PM
>    To: [email protected]
>    Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] RE: OFF TOPIC Computer repair
>
>    For $200, I think you should be good.
>
>    Sounds like there will be some neat stuff coming out next year with
>    the new generation of Ultrabooks (very thin & light laptops similar to
>    the MacBook Air) coming out, and the cost of solid state drives coming
>    down. It is probably worth your while keeping this one running for
>    another year with the $200 repair.
>
>    --
>    David Risner
>    Software Engineer
>    MERLOT, California State University
>
>
>
>    On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Melissa PollaK
>    > To: '[email protected]'
>    > Subject: OFF TOPIC Computer repair
>
>    > $350 to fix a 4-year-old Dell laptop with Vista operating system.
>    Or,
>    just
>
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>   So long, Michele 
> O'Callaghan<http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/8e4bf9b02b4247ff>
>
>    Joe Hass <[email protected]> Dec 20 08:15AM -0600
>
>    Dave took the entire second segment to talk about her, and was very
>    touching. He did say she was part of the group at NBC.
>
>    I have a friend who is heading in to the hospital this morning for a
>    three-pack of ops after having a diagnosis of breast cancer earlier
>    this year. They caught it so early it was labeled "Stage 0" (and what
>    the fuck is that name? That name had to come from the same doofuses
>    who came up with "preboard" for airplanes), but they're going to go
>    in, do some cleaning out, give her about six weeks of radiation and do
>    a lube, oil and filter change. I've gotten a little more aware and
>    sensitive toward these things (this is on top of my wife's aunt who
>    literally went in to see the doctor for a cough and muscle ache and
>    came out with a Stage 4 diagnosis on her lungs). This kind of hit a
>    little closer than I'd have liked.
>
>    I've said before, and will say again: fuck cancer.
>
>
>
>
>
>    Bob in Jersey <[email protected]> Dec 20 07:12AM -0800
>
>    Bradford, to moi:
>    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XcPHe4bg0
>
>    I mixed up Real Time and RealSports... thanks Olby...
>
>
>
>    --
>    BOB
>
>
>
>
>    PGage <[email protected]> Dec 20 09:14AM -0800
>
>    > came out with a Stage 4 diagnosis on her lungs). This kind of hit a
>    > little closer than I'd have liked.
>
>    > I've said before, and will say again: fuck cancer.
>
>    Dave did a real nice job with this; given the little I knew about her
>    already, and what we learned from watching KO, Dave seemed to really
>    honor
>    her not just with his words but with his tone. The video tribute was
>    nice
>    in that it confirmed for me what I suspected (she was the woman who
>    named
>    her dog asshole after Dave), but it did seem a little unfinished and
>    rushed
>    - but then apparently most of the staff had been at the funeral earlier
>    that day. Dave also finished off with his own "fuck you" to cancer.
>
>
>    
> http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_show/video/?pid=qRM5rm2NZGk9rlXKGm2l2ljvZUpU9a9R&vs=Default&play=true
>
>
>
>
>    "K.M. Richards" <[email protected]> Dec 20 09:51AM -0800
>
>    Keith Olbermann also devoted the segment around :30 in last night's
>    Countdown (where he usually does the viral videos in the "Time Marches
>    On") to an obit.
>
>
>
>
>    donz5 <[email protected]> Dec 20 09:58AM -0800
>
>    I hear that. The love of my life began chemo today for Stage IIIC
>    uterine cancer.
>
>    Mortality sucks.
>
>
>
>
>   More Palin on 
> TLC?<http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/adfcd467050460ff>
>
>    "K.M. Richards" <[email protected]> Dec 20 09:53AM -0800
>
>    Said party has now qualified for the California ballot, says the
>    political e-newsletter I received this morning.
>
>
>
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