A particular concern I have with STID is that it's an odd case of too much 
tell, not enough show in many of the relationships tested in the film.  For all 
the points of homage get right, I think the attempt to hew closer to the 
original than the 2000 film (I can't get more specific w/o spoiling) manages to 
force two movies' worth of story into one.  Had there been a Marvel-like plan 
in place where films that didn't focus on the main characters were OK, I think 
a lot of this could have been avoided, and some of the parties getting early 
kudos could have really shown (rather than told) their stuff.

Bottom line for me, while these films are better, many of the people behind 
them have been responsible for some pretty empty films (looking at those 
monster and living car movies, mostly).  And JJ remains a decent TV guy for a 
film director.  Not unlike Trek in terms of film vs. TV.

I suppose I'm really complaining about how this good space action movie could 
have been a great movie.  And complaining about how a particular gimmick really 
got in the way of the people making the film.

David

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On May 24, 2013, at 8:22 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is too early to go over the specific plot points that would allow me to 
> attempt to rebut your point that the current film has nothing in common with 
> the original other than names and basic concepts, but I think most fans of 
> the original tv and films, even if they do not like JJ's films, will be able 
> to cite a lot more commonalities than that.
> 
> As stannc notes, Roddenberry explored current events in his space show - he 
> also explored relationships. I think Abrams is doing the same - arguably the 
> reboot is allowing him to get into the relationship issues in even greater 
> depth than the restrictions of the 1960s would ever allowed GR, and the 
> second film is clearly exploring issues raised by the Bush-Obama "War" on 
> terrorism in terms that are more subversive and critical of conventional 
> opinion than anything Roddenberry ever did.
>  

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