Me type not so good on iPad... Points of homage *done* right, not get right.
2009 film, not 2000 film. David Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2013, at 8:58 PM, David Bruggeman <[email protected]> wrote: > A particular concern I have with STID is that it's an odd case of too much > tell, not enough show in many of the relationships tested in the film. For > all the points of homage get right, I think the attempt to hew closer to the > original than the 2000 film (I can't get more specific w/o spoiling) manages > to force two movies' worth of story into one. Had there been a Marvel-like > plan in place where films that didn't focus on the main characters were OK, I > think a lot of this could have been avoided, and some of the parties getting > early kudos could have really shown (rather than told) their stuff. > > Bottom line for me, while these films are better, many of the people behind > them have been responsible for some pretty empty films (looking at those > monster and living car movies, mostly). And JJ remains a decent TV guy for a > film director. Not unlike Trek in terms of film vs. TV. > > I suppose I'm really complaining about how this good space action movie could > have been a great movie. And complaining about how a particular gimmick > really got in the way of the people making the film. > > David > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2013, at 8:22 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It is too early to go over the specific plot points that would allow me to >> attempt to rebut your point that the current film has nothing in common with >> the original other than names and basic concepts, but I think most fans of >> the original tv and films, even if they do not like JJ's films, will be able >> to cite a lot more commonalities than that. >> >> As stannc notes, Roddenberry explored current events in his space show - he >> also explored relationships. I think Abrams is doing the same - arguably the >> reboot is allowing him to get into the relationship issues in even greater >> depth than the restrictions of the 1960s would ever allowed GR, and the >> second film is clearly exploring issues raised by the Bush-Obama "War" on >> terrorism in terms that are more subversive and critical of conventional >> opinion than anything Roddenberry ever did. > > -- > -- > TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
