But Coyle's production method is infinitely better than anything Fox has
ever done on a baseball broadcast. Fox treats the game itself as secondary
to whatever they want to do in the broadcast (in-game coaching interviews
are Exhibit A). Coyle let the game speak for itself.

I mean, look at how Fox treated their four F1 broadcasts: not live, edited
down to pick up the start of the race, cut away for the anthems. Compare
that to how NBC treated F1 at Monaco: live, with a pregame, allowed to
breathe, not rushed off the air once the cars finished.

I'm not saying Fox would have no affect on how broadcasts change. But in a
world where NBC is continuously producing sports league events (from
2002-2005, they only had the NHL which was locked out), I think they
somehow provide a different product than Fox and ESPN/ABC.


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>wrote:

> Let's say that Harry Coyle's style gets passed down to the next group of
> directors.
>
> And sooner or later, Fox seems to influence everyone else--probably NBC
> would've eventually become Foxified.  Even Ebersol gave up on score boxes
> eventually.  And over in another division, everyone else started doing
> constant lower thirds after Fox News Channel hit big--and this was more
> Rupert's Australian consultants than Ailes, because fX in its "TV Made
> Fresh Daily" days and Fox's owned stations were doing it before FNC--and no
> one was imitating them (and in Chicago, WFLD stopped doing it very
> quickly).  What AIles brought to the concept was using them as
> message-bolsterers to whatever dogma he and Bill Shine was/are sending out
> for the day.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> Saints Spotlight Editor
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>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It depends on which alternate universe you want to play in: does NBC
>> never lose the baseball contract or do they go after it in 2000 with Fox to
>> keep what was the status quo?
>>
>> In the former, Harry Coyle's style is passed down to the next generation
>> of producers, and we have a far more muted style than what Fox throws up
>> every Saturday. More stat friendly announcers, and significantly less Tim
>> McCarver (though far more Bob Costas, and you can take that how you will).
>>
>> In the latter, I think it becomes more Foxified, with Coyle's influence
>> significantly muted.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:02 AM, JW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> > Right - though I try to remind myself that with the Olympics we are not
>>> > really dealing with NBC Sports per se, since they are trying to make
>>> their
>>> > money back from so many non-sports fans. But it it were Fox making a
>>> mess
>>> > of the Olympics we would at least be able to say: "What do you expect,
>>> > the're Fox Sports?"
>>>
>>> I still miss NBC's baseball coverage. (Of course, there's no way of
>>> telling what it would have become by now.)
>>>
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