My expectations were immediately lowered when I saw the "clean" icon next to the episode description on iTunes (I suspect that was a condition of the White House). Not that I needed to here the president say "f*ck," but podcasting is open and free by nature; that "clean" icon tells me there were limits to what could be said.
The fact that there was a "clean icon" does not mean that there was any interference from the White House. It's merely a rating put on to advise there was no objectionable material - which seems to be incorrect seeing as how the Fox "news" people are up in arms that the president said the "n-word". Maron has said in interviews, most notably on MSNBC last night, that there were no restrictions placed on what they could talk about. ------- Original Message ------- >From : Kevin M.[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 6/22/2015 7:17:05 PM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [TV orNotTV] Maron's Presidential WTF post-mortem I've listened to about half of it so far. My expectations were immediately lowered when I saw the "clean" icon next to the episode description on iTunes (I suspect that was a condition of the White House). Not that I needed to here the president say "f*ck," but podcasting is open and free by nature; that "clean" icon tells me there were limits to what could be said. Nothing new or interesting in the content. All the prompter jokes aside, Obama has always been good at talking. Not always so good with the doing, but good with the talking. As stated elsewhere recently, I'm tired of the empty rhetoric. If the president insists that he is powerless to take on the gun lobby or tackle other important issues, then (and I say this as someone who voted for him in '08), the best thing he can do is resign. Either that or he needs to start calling out by name the other elected officials who are leading the filibustering and related obfuscation, holding them accountable... telling them directly that the blood of the victims of the next shooting incident are on their hands. Make the rhetoric NOT empty and I'll get interested again. Until then, it's all just hollow marketing. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:01 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <[email protected]> wrote: I haven't listened to either yet. Some coverage (the stuff not obsessed about word choice) says that Maron and his producer will talk about the whole process on Thursday's episode. There are a few photos posted at marcmeetsobama.com (part of the sponsorship for that episode). David From: Tom Wolper <[email protected]> To: TV or not TV <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Maron's Presidential WTF post-mortem On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 1:07 AM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <[email protected]> wrote: Vague enough that I doubt it classifies as spoilers, but I'd understand if anyone chose to wait until after hearing the podcast (dropping on Monday) before reading this (from Vulture). http://www.vulture.com/2015/06/marc-maron-on-his-interview-with-president-obama.html I haven't listened to either the podcast yet or this segment of Fresh Air yet, it's a half hour of Terry Gross talking to Maron about interviewing the president. http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/22/416481081/obama-visits-marc-marons-garage-cats-annoyed-they-were-shut-in-bedroom -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. 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