On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:48 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:

> The article mentions the network’s have reserach the protests of police
> violence played a part, but they dont provide any specifics. If this played
> a role it had to be relatively small. Ratings were down 8% last year and
> 10% this year,so it seems the protests at most contributed the extra 2%
> decline - but I doubt they were responsible for all or even most of that. I
> know a lot of people who stopped watching the NFL this year not because of
> those protests, but because of the collusion of the owners to keep Colin
> Kaepernick from playing.
>
> Over saturation is not another problem, it is the problem. So are the
> larger trends that are decreasing TV watching generally.
>


Now that LA has not one but two teams, I know several local football fans
who are pissed they no longer get the “good” games so they watch with less
frequency

>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:38 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> NFL ratings are down 10 percent this year. It appears the kneeling
>> controversy played a part, at least early in the season. Over saturation is
>> another problem.
>> LA Times story
>> <http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-nfl-ratings-20180104-story.html>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Steve Cooper <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While I live football and watch quite a bit I do feel that football has
>>>> reached a saturation point.
>>>>
>>>> In addition to games all day Sunday, we get Sunday Night Football,
>>>> Monday Night Football and Thursday Night Football (on two networks).  Add
>>>> to that Directv’s NFL Ticket, Redzone Channel and the ability to watch it
>>>> streaming and see daily ESPN and FS1 football shows and you can see how the
>>>> NFL has diluted it’s own product.  Other than when your home team is
>>>> playing there is no urgency to set time aside to watch football.  There’ll
>>>> be more coming around soon.  Add to that early Sunday morning games from
>>>> London that nobody can find a way to watch except online and the product
>>>> gets diluted even more.
>>>>
>>>> We won’t get into college football games which seem to be on every
>>>> night from Tuesday on.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The expansion was because the market seemed endless. until recently all
>>> sports were seeing declines in the number of TV viewers except football.
>>> They seemed bulletproof. No matter how much football they put on, and on
>>> whatever days, people would watch in large numbers. ESPN and FS1 could put
>>> on NFL analysis show after analysis show and they would all get decent
>>> numbers. I don't dispute a saturation point, but the NFL has had Thursday
>>> night games since 2006 and the numbers fell only recently.
>>>
>>> I feel a waning personal interest in watching NFL games that are not
>>> Steeler games. I only watch if I can't find anything else to do. I
>>> sometimes get nostalgic for a time they weren't a seven day a week story
>>> here in Pittsburgh and local media (especially sports talk radio) wasn't
>>> full of conversations that once could be heard only in dive bars. I can't
>>> think of anything that expands my personal feelings to a broader audience
>>> but if that's the way I feel maybe others do as well.
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