While I live football and watch quite a bit I do feel that football has reached a saturation point.
In addition to games all day Sunday, we get Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football and Thursday Night Football (on two networks). Add to that Directv’s NFL Ticket, Redzone Channel and the ability to watch it streaming and see daily ESPN and FS1 football shows and you can see how the NFL has diluted it’s own product. Other than when your home team is playing there is no urgency to set time aside to watch football. There’ll be more coming around soon. Add to that early Sunday morning games from London that nobody can find a way to watch except online and the product gets diluted even more. We won’t get into college football games which seem to be on every night from Tuesday on. Steve Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, PGage <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Joe: what you suggest might explain why ratings are lower in Week 3 than Week 12; but it would not explain why ratings in Week 3 last season were 12% lower than the year before that, or why they were 6% lower for the same weeks this season compared to last. Something is causing a real bleed in NFL tv ratings over the last 2-3 years (maybe longer). Someone else mentioned that attendance does not seem to be down; but the NFL, more even than other pro sports, is an entirely different product live than on TV, and appeals to a different kind of audience on TV. TV ratings could probably go down 40% without any detectable drop in attendance. The problem is that TV money, not the live gate, is what fuels the obscene profits of the NFL On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:16 AM Joe Ryan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Just a thought here... Possibly the ratings are down because, to the average fan, all the games before Thanksgiving don't really matter. Yes, there are good individual games and an early season injury (see: Aaron Rodgers) can derail a team's season. But the important games are in December and January not September and October. Ratings will go up because that is the perception the casual fan has. The early part of the season has all the byes and the London games. After Thanksgiving is when there will be more interest. On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:58 PM, PGage <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Trump may be all-powerful, but even he can’t believe that his influence transcends time. As I noted, NFL ratings dropped twice as much last season (before Trump was president, before he opined on the faux anthem controversy) as they are this year. Whatever the cause for the ratings drop (obviously, they are multiple) it simply can not be Trump. I will note that before Trump pumped new life into the issue, it was the BLM movement and allies that were advocating for boycotting the NFL. To the extent that whole thing is related to the NFL ratings woes, it would be because of them, not Trumpsters. On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:05 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: If the game looks good, people will tune in. It may be the NFL can't compete with other entertainment options when there's just routine games on. A lot of the NFL's growth int he past decade or so was female fans. I wonder if they are losing interest and tuning out. And yes, part of it is people unhappy with the protests. I have too much anecdotal evidence in my Facebook timeline to believe otherwise. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. As much as you hate Trump, he can influence ratings through his core base. On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Jon Delfin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Numerous? Complex? This is the U S of A, we don't have time for that. On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Is there a chart somewhere showing NFL ratings drops compared to overall network ratings drops? I agree that Trump’s bullshit patriotism is not to blame; the number of variables are numerous and complex. As PGage noted, people (not just young people) don’t have the same viewing habits as a decade ago. My brother is the sort of massive sports fan who used to be incommunicado during games because he was glued to the TV, but he is now content to view score updates and highlights on his phone, and he’s nearly a decade older than me. NPR's Marketplace did a story a number of years ago. A reporter went to a Wall Street area bar after the NYSE closing bell and went up to well dressed people. After confirming that they worked for Wall Street firms he noted how many points the Dow was up that day and asked why. Six different people gave him six different answers. Lesson: something happens and people are looking for THE cause. The thing that happened might be noise in the larger statistical picture (like that day's rise in the Dow) or it might reverse itself in the near future. As for the NFL there have been three types of followers: football fans, gamblers, and fantasy players (by no means mutually exclusive). The latter two groups might be satisfied with online updates of scores and player stats. I haven't heard of any attendance problems outside of southern California so it's not like the popularity is crashing. -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. 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