Two items of note, then I need to go back to ignoring the words and rhetoric, because I always feel that the words are distracting us from somebody's nefarious actions.
First, an interview with Ms Wolf in the Hollywood Reporter prior to the WHCD wherein she stated she fully expected to bomb. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michelle-wolf-trump-skipping-correspondents-dinner-her-netflix-late-night-debut-1101490 Second, the statement from the WHCA that blames Ms Wolf for creating division (if that don't make you vomit, I don't know what will). https://twitter.com/whca/status/990773612226412545 On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 4:09 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree - if Trump, or even Sanders standing in for Trump, had closed it > would be different, because participation signals the kind of underlying > mutual respect, even if grudging and institutional, that I referred to > earlier. This is what provides the context that takes the mean spirited > edge off. But this requires a capacity, which both Bush and Obama and just > about every POTUS including Nixon had, to be the “Bigger Man” and > gracefully take the joke (even when giving some back). Trump is incapable > of this. > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 3:55 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The point Kevin raises is worth exploring. >> >> If Sanders had opted to speak at the dinner, either before or after Wolf >> (I have no idea if this was even on the table, so this is very >> hypothetical), would the criticism/outrage be muted? I don't know how >> funny she could be in this setting, as President Obama set a high bar. >> >> Comparing these year-to-year always seems apples to oranges, but this is >> the second one that the Cheeto-in-Chief skipped. I don't remember much >> outrage from last year's remarks by Hasan Minhaj. But I don't know how >> much of this difference can be attributed to there being no administration >> representatives in the room or from the different reception a female >> comedian can get in a room - any room - compared to her male peers. >> >> Maybe the collective missing the point on Wolf's specific jokes is of a >> kind with the reaction to some of Larry Wilmore's material from 2016? >> Hearing what you want to hear rather than really listening (which is not >> easy to do in that crappy hotel ballroom). >> >> David >> >> On Sunday, April 29, 2018, 3:55:40 PM EDT, Kevin M. < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> The reason it comes across as more mean spirited than a traditional roast >> is the focus of the roast refuses to participate. Traditionally, the person >> being roasted gets the last word. Trump is too cowardly to lob insults to >> anybody's face, so the dinner has become one-sided. If he attended, he >> could speak out in person (at the risk of sounding old-school sexist... >> that’s what a real man would do), but the coward knows he’d be outnumbered >> and outwitted, so he makes up the pretense that the dinner is somehow >> beneath him (he puts ketchup on steak... no dinner is beneath him). >> >> As much as the topical humor isn’t for me, I recognize the value of it in >> pop culture. Just because the bully won’t play in the sandbox is no reason >> to dismantle the sandbox. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
