I agree with her when she said actions are more important than words. But she’s in the business of words... speaking is her action. I don’t doubt the sincerity of her apology, but it isn’t backed up by any action beyond... well... more words.
That said, the First Lady is a feckless cunt, so who really gives a shit? On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:38 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > https://twitter.com/FullFrontalSamB/status/1004558566173310976 > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:02 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:22 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Oh I know Ari Fleischer (nowhere near as horrible as Sanders). But >>> neither he nor Bush called for Maher to be fired. Which is where the line >>> is that should not be crossed. But, as I read the article that had the >>> headline “White House Demands Sam B be fired“ posted by Steve (which I >>> should have read before I posted about it) I see Sanders did not quite >>> cross the line either (though she got closer than Fleischer did). She said >>> Turner should show comments like Bee’s would not be condoned”. There are >>> lots of ways of doing that without firing her. >>> >>> When ABC cancelled Maher because of public pressure generated by Bush >>> (which they obviously did, even though they denied it) that is weak and >>> cowardly on their part, but not an outrage on Bush’s part, unless he >>> threatened to directly punish ABC somehow (which I dont believe he did, as >>> it was unnecessary at that time). If Turner fires Bee now it will be their >>> own weak-ass fault, which is different than if the President formally >>> demanded it. >>> >>> There are some interesting side notes to all of this - is it less >>> offensive for a female comic to use that term to slam a female official >>> than if a male had one it? (yes, obviously, though that does not make it >>> okay even so). Is it worse that the target was the President’s daughter? >>> (Yes). Is it okay because she is a Presidential Advisor (less bad than if >>> she were a 16 year old girl, but still bad enough). Is that particular word >>> so offensive that there is no excuse for ever using it in any context? (I >>> don’t think so, but my opinion is probably not one of those that counts the >>> most on this one). But regardless of those, never lose sight of the >>> fundamental fact that however bad the Bee comment was, it was not even in >>> the same neighborhood as Barr’s comment - not even close. >>> >> >> It’s two different things. A racist comment is different than an >> offensive joke. >> >> And Trump, who has uttered more racist and offensive things than any >> president since Andrew Jackson (Nixon is a choirboy by comparison) doesn’t >> get to take offense. He’s not allowed to take offense if somebody spits in >> his face or knees him in the area where his balls would be if he had any. >> The White House as an entity can condemn Bee’s words... funny thing is I >> don’t see anybody of note supporting them... but this is just what the GOP >> wanted. While this pointless conversation is taking place, the first trade >> war in a generation has begun, and God only knows what else is slipping >> through the cracks. >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:36 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:07 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don’t remember George W Bush demanding that Maher be fired (I mean >>>>> that literally - it may have happened, I just don’t remember it) >>>>> >>>> >>>> It happened circuitously... White House mouthpiece Ari Fleischer (like >>>> Sarah Sanders but bald... still had the smoky eyes, though) condemned >>>> Maher’s show after a guest (not Maher) said the actions of the 9/11 >>>> terrorists were many despicable things, but they weren’t cowardly. Pressure >>>> directly from the White House led to sponsors pulling out, and ultimately >>>> Maher was fired. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://variety.com/2001/tv/features/white-house-keeps-heat-on-abc-s-maher-1117853351/amp/ >>>> >>>> >>>> . >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:10 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:07 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In the end, they are just so stupid. If Turner had wanted to fire >>>>>>> Bee before this it would be their right (though I would have thought an >>>>>>> overreaction and pander to the false equivalence). It will be an >>>>>>> outrage if >>>>>>> they fire her once the chief executive of the US Government demands it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Happened to Bill Maher after 9/11 and the outrage amounted to >>>>>> nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:27 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:09 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> White House Demands Sam B be fired >>>>>>>>> Link >>>>>>>>> <https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-demands-tbs-cancel-samantha-bees-show> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When ABC decides to cancel Roseanne it's workplace rules. 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