As a Marine Corps vet (who qualified at the highest "Pistol Expert" level) I can pretty much vouch for that. Even military-trained marksmen would never be expected to reliably hit a moving target with a pistol from more than about 10 yards away. The USMC qualification test back in my day was ridiculous: part of it was 15 rounds at 25 yards in a 10-minute time limit, among other scenarios. And, again, that's a non-moving target. Since I left the service, it's been modified to make it more realistic, and now involves 40 rounds at various distances up to 25 yards, in 5- to 12-second increments. But again...still a static target. And that's what Marine Corps *experts* are expected to reliably do.
Now rifles are completely different animals, on the other hand. Don't piss me off and stand out in the open anywhere within 500 yards of me when I have an M-16 in my hands. One shot, one kill, as the kids in camouflage like to say. 😊 Doug Fields Tampa, FL ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Kevin M. <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:58:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Finally, some realism in a shooting scene On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Steve Timko <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I've complained before in this group about a lack of reality in shooting scenes in television shows. Here's something realistic, but it's not fiction. It's a botched hit on the son of a New York mobster caught on security cameras. The shooter stands above the guy and shoots and still can't finish the job. Compare that to miracle shots from 30 yards away that hit bad guys in the head. https://youtu.be/9ugSjF7geMs Yeah, with few exceptions, I'd say gun violence on TV shows is almost cartoonish. I get that Gibbs on NCIS is a military-trained marksman, but he's also not young anymore, and doesn't wear glasses when he's firing a weapon. But the same is true of fight-sequences... comics have done entire bits mocking the fact apparently everybody on TV is trained in six different forms of martial arts. Growing up in Pomona, where drive-bys were fairly routine, I'd say it depends on the gun and the skill of the shooter. A little .22 or a snub-nose .38 will require someone to be very still and in close proximity. I've been to a gun range a few times, and it doesn't take much effort to become proficient at shooting a still target. A moving target, on the other hand, requires something I don't have. People who lived through the robbery upon which it is based say the climactic sequence in "Heat" is fairly realistic. The opening scene in Stephen Bochco's "Brooklyn South" was said by the NYPD consultants to be realistic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
