Note to self: Stay at least 500 yards away from Doug before ticking him off
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 2:13 PM Doug Fields <[email protected]> wrote: > As a Marine Corps vet (who qualified at the highest "Pistol Expert" level) > I can pretty much vouch for that. Even military-trained marksmen would > never be expected to reliably hit a moving target with a pistol from more > than about 10 yards away. The USMC qualification test back in my day was > ridiculous: part of it was 15 rounds at 25 yards in a 10-minute time limit, > among other scenarios. And, again, that's a non-moving target. Since I > left the service, it's been modified to make it more realistic, and now > involves 40 rounds at various distances up to 25 yards, in 5- to 12-second > increments. But again...still a static target. And that's what Marine > Corps *experts* are expected to reliably do. > > > Now rifles are completely different animals, on the other hand. Don't > piss me off and stand out in the open anywhere within 500 yards of me when > I have an M-16 in my hands. One shot, one kill, as the kids in camouflage > like to say. 😊 > > > Doug Fields > > Tampa, FL > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf > of Kevin M. <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:58:57 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] Finally, some realism in a shooting scene > > > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Steve Timko <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I've complained before in this group about a lack of reality in shooting > scenes in television shows. Here's something realistic, but it's not > fiction. It's a botched hit on the son of a New York mobster caught on > security cameras. > The shooter stands above the guy and shoots and still can't finish the > job. Compare that to miracle shots from 30 yards away that hit bad guys in > the head. > https://youtu.be/9ugSjF7geMs > > > Yeah, with few exceptions, I'd say gun violence on TV shows is almost > cartoonish. I get that Gibbs on NCIS is a military-trained marksman, but > he's also not young anymore, and doesn't wear glasses when he's firing a > weapon. But the same is true of fight-sequences... comics have done entire > bits mocking the fact apparently everybody on TV is trained in six > different forms of martial arts. > > Growing up in Pomona, where drive-bys were fairly routine, I'd say it > depends on the gun and the skill of the shooter. A little .22 or a > snub-nose .38 will require someone to be very still and in close proximity. > I've been to a gun range a few times, and it doesn't take much effort to > become proficient at shooting a still target. A moving target, on the other > hand, requires something I don't have. > > People who lived through the robbery upon which it is based say the > climactic sequence in "Heat" is fairly realistic. The opening scene in > Stephen Bochco's "Brooklyn South" was said by the NYPD consultants to be > realistic. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
