As others have said, there is no easy answer. I think Louis CK should be able to rehabilitate himself, but if this is a return and not just testing the waters it may be too quick. People ripped on him for doing a routine and not mentioning the allegations. If he had done a routine and mentioned the allegations people would accuse him of being insensitive.
With the exception of his apparently locking the door once, I haven’t seen any allegation against him that amounts to more than a misdemeanor. Locking the door could amount to some sort of illegal detention short of kidnapping and that could be a felony. So I’m not sure it’s fair to refer to him as a sexual offender. He wouldn’t have to register in Nevada or California for what he has admitted doing. I jumped into a few Twitter conversations by pointing out that the #MeToo movement in general has been silent on what Asia Argento almost assuredly did to the 17-year-old boy. That could be statutory rape. She maintains her innocence, unlike Louis CK, who eventually acknowledged his guilt. I don’t think it’s fair that people are throwing bombs at Louis CK and not even giving Argento a skunk eye. Let’s be real. Louis CK traumatized his victims, while Argento fulfilled just about every teen boy’s fantasy. Still, it’s a huge difference that Louis CK (eventually) admitted what he did while Argento hides behind denial and silence. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:17 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > It is the concept that the venues are in the middle that feels like a > conceit to me. It implies a middle ground exists between those who were > sexually harassed and “fans” of the guy who did the harassing. That’s not a > middle ground, it is a cop-out. > > I would put forward the notion that any comedy club who cannot make money > without the sexual harassers needs to close its doors. I would put forward > the notion any comedy club who cannot find comics who don’t sexually harass > women needs to close its doors. I’d even put forward the notion that, as CK > has not expressed or exhibited any signs of changed behavior, booking him > to perform presents a massive liability issue. > > People deserve second chances, but before you make with the yuk-yuks, take > some ownership of your past misdeeds, show some degree of remorse or > regret, demonstrate a willingness to change. This just felt like “Well it’s > been a year, time to get back at it.” > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:03 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:06 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> I honestly don't know how Louis CK could continue his career at this >>> point. I would think it'd take a wait of years rather than months. And he >>> might want to do things very differently when he tries to reboot. >>> >>> I suppose it's like the thorny issue of reformed sex offenders. They >>> need to re-enter society, or they simply become a permanent burden on the >>> state, and so they need to be allowed to get a job and a home. But I'm not >>> going to be happy that they're working alongside me, or living next door. >>> >> >> Let's remember that these things are a process and they don't proceed in >> a linear fashion. While the Bill Cosby story was breaking he was on tour. >> He continued doing dates and drawing crowds even as the number of accusers >> mushroomed. >> >> Louis CK has fans who want to see him perform no matter what he's done >> and they're willing to shame victims for keeping him away. There are also >> many, many people who take the side of the victims and are not prepared to >> go to a club or watch a show featuring CK. The venues and entertainment >> companies are in the middle and they will react to feedback they get >> whenever he appears. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
