I see the similarity Kevin, but I think Penn is several octaves higher than either Pat Buchanan or Joe Rogan.
BTW I took my son to see Penn and Teller last year and we had up such a great time at their show. Like about a third of the audience at one time or another I got called on stage to be a prop, and got to talk to him a little then and after the show (they are available to shake hands and chat). Well worth the cost of the tickets On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:23 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:12 PM Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If you want an excellent description of Rogan, you'll do worse than this >> profile by Devin Gordon for The Atlantic. >> >> >> https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/08/my-joe-rogan-experience/594802/ >> >> Here's the money quote: >> >> "Joe likes Jack (Dorsey). He likes Milo Yiannopoulos. He likes Alex >> Jones. He wants you to know that he doesn’t agree with much of what they >> say, but he also wants you to know that off camera they’re the nicest guys. >> If we all have fatal flaws, this is Joe’s: his insistence on seeing value >> in people even when he shouldn’t, even when they’ve forfeited any right to >> it, even when the harm outweighs the good. It comes from a generous place, >> but it amounts to careless cruelty. He just won’t write people off, and >> then he compounds the sin by throwing them a lifeline at the moment when >> they least deserve it." >> > > I feel much the same way about Penn Jillette. The late Tom Heald and I > used to bond over Penn’s old FreeFM radio show. We’d swap recordings of it. > And his magic and comedy are both undeniably great. But he sees all > opinions as equally valid... won’t be critical of even the most > ill-informed moron. And I just lost the taste for it > > >> This is where Rogan goes off the rails for me. I get that, as Steve >> notes, he frequently has smart people on his program who say smart things. >> But he also has fundamentally horrible people on his show just often enough >> that it resets the counter to zero. >> >> The name that oddly comes to mind is Pat Buchanan. I affectionately >> nicknamed him "Sixty-Second Pat" because whenever I'd stumble upon him when >> I was watching TV news, I could seemingly count on him for roughly 60 >> seconds of logical, thoughtful-though-conservative conversation. But almost >> on cue, when the 61st second came around, he'd say something out of right >> field that reminded me "Oh, yeah: he's an (expletive)." and I'd move on >> quickly. >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2020, 21:05 Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:39 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who would in any way utter a >>>> sentence to the effect that they enjoy anything having to do with Joe >>>> Rogan. >>>> >>> >>> Rogan has fought MMA (not as a professional) for more than 20 years in >>> addition to being a commentator. The MMA discussions can be pretty good, >>> especially since he gets top MMA fighters on there. When COVID-19 started >>> spreading, he had an excellent expert who cut through a lot of the BS and >>> gave a detailed description of the situation. 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