I agree the chaos is annoying. However, as of this writing I am able to
stream everything through my very cheap Amazon Fire stick. Despite
conversation here, still not sure if my “side loading” (that is the term I
needed to know) of HBOMax will continue to work after 7/31. If not, I
suspect it will be relatively temporary until they resolve their dispute,
and I can still access HBOMAX directly on my IPad.  Also, Xfinity has sent
us a message that sounds like we soon will be able to access via their
cable.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:12 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think that this is where the battle lines are being drawn in the
> "streaming wars." It's really about who gets what deal with what provider.
> I was listening to The Verge podcast earlier today, and they pointed out
> that Netflix has the whip hand. Whoever you are, Roku, Amazon, AN Other TV
> set manufacturer, you have to have Netflix available. Indeed Netflix
> probably want a dedicated button on your remote control.
>
> But HBO Max and Peacock aren't getting the same deals that Netflix has
> demanded (and got) or even Disney+. Roku wants to share Peacock's ad
> dollars; Amazon wants control over data and how things appear. It's a mess.
>
> I can't see any way to get everything right now without having multiple
> devices. And that means a multiplicity of remote controls because that's
> where we are in 2020...
>
> I mean some kind of regulation might be the answer but, ha ha ha ha ha
>
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 1:50 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 11:46 AM David Risner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I taught my 73 year old mother-in-law how to use Chromecast. It wasn’t
>>> very difficult at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The nice part about it is you just have to set things up on your phone
>>> or tablet, and then you can watch it on the TV. You don’t have to go
>>> through an arcane login process on the TV.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> She was more confused when the TV went out and we replaced it with a
>>> FireTV enabled TV. It took her quite some time to get how to use FireTV
>>> even with explaining it multiple times over the course of weeks.
>>>
>>
>> I find the situation to be increasingly frustrating. There is an
>> exploding number of streaming apps and a bunch of hardware build-ins and
>> add-ons and you don't know which player you need for which service. Side
>> loading apps works but doesn't help the situation for most of us. My setup
>> is I have a Vizio TV and a Channelmaster OTA DVR with a Chromecast built
>> in. Through the DVR I can't download the apps for Prime, Netflix, or Hulu
>> because of some contract issue. I don't know if a stand alone Chromecast
>> has that issue. My TV has those apps and even dedicated buttons on the
>> remote but it won't hold a WiFi signal and video just hangs after playing
>> for 10 seconds. I don't know if that's because the TV is cheap or it's
>> obsolete and since it's useless I disconnected the WiFi so I'm not letting
>> companies harvest data.
>>
>> I could get a Shield but that's one more remote to find room for and one
>> more plug for the power strip. This situation of new apps coming out and
>> having to figure out not only do I want the content but do I have the right
>> hardware or do I want to buy something new in order to play it frustrates
>> the hell out of me.
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