It appears that Viacom/CBS owns the Quinn Martin library, so if those were 
going to stream anywhere, I'd expect it to be CBS All Access. Maybe when they 
"relaunch" in 2021, those shows will be part of the content. Or maybe not -- 
there's no real indication that they're adding any amount of older programming 
in recent articles such as this: 
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/07/cbs-all-access-to-relaunch-acquires-spongebob-prequel-1234577255/
 
<https://www.indiewire.com/2020/07/cbs-all-access-to-relaunch-acquires-spongebob-prequel-1234577255/>

Similarly, it appears that Warner Bros. owns the rights to "Harry O," so... HBO 
Max? Probably don't hold your breath for that one.


> On Aug 1, 2020, at 10:06 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So, you are suggesting it would cost Hulu or Amazon more in Rights and 
> residual fees than the value they would get from new or retained subscribers. 
> I considered that, but then, how do the economics work for DVD sales?  The 
> complete set for The Fugitive (4 Seasons, 120 episodes, 32 discs) costs 
> $45.50 on Amazon. It seems like they could find a price point for the 
> Steaming Rights for that show that would result in at least as many views on 
> Hulu as box sets sold. I guess Hulu does really make money from views, but 
> still it seems like The Fugitive would provide better filler content at a 
> lower price than a lot of the other crap I currently see on Hulu. Not to 
> mention, if I’m Hulu (or whatever) it seems I could carve out a pretty 
> lucrative niche marketing myself to aging Boomers as the home of TV content 
> of their youth, maybe something like a “Quinn Martin Collection”.
> 
> OTOH, while I do have a fair number of TV box sets from pre 2010 or so 
> (including my prize possession, the West Wing set in the Blue White House 
> Box), I am not convinced that route makes economic ,ic sense for me Anymore, 
> especially for B and C level material. Even a bargain like The Fugitive 
> represents about 4 months of Hulu, which gives me access to so many more 
> hours and variety of content, and allows my three grown children, each in 
> different geographical locations than me (in non-COVID conditions) to access 
> it as well. I would rather have Hulu for a year than 3 QM box sets.
> 
> That said, that price for The Fugitive Box set is looking better and better 
> to me. Unlike the 2 seasons of Harry O, which come to about $90). 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:27 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> From what I can gather it's simply money. Most of the streaming services 
> disproportionately target young audiences - so you find few shows made before 
> 2000 on them. That may be slightly different with something like CBS All 
> Access or Peacock which are owned by networks and may have their own wares to 
> throw on at little cost. But even then, there may be residuals due. And of 
> course just because a show aired on NBC doesn't mean they own it. Why nobody 
> has Homicide: Life on the Streets available, I don't know.
> 
> I think it's simply a choice they make. And older stuff tends to get missed 
> out. It does frustrate me that many people will only watch a movie if it's on 
> Netflix or Amazon. Most films aren't on those channels or their ilk. Indeed, 
> amazingly, many films aren't even on the rental sites like Apple or Google 
> Play. 
> 
> Personally I would be utterly lost without discs. I still buy them because 
> the picture quality is better (all the streamers crush the picture compared 
> to say Blu Ray), there are extras that you rarely find on streaming, and most 
> importantly, I know I'll have access to them this time next week or next 
> year. Stuff comes and goes, and I'm not playing that game. So yes, I have the 
> Homicide boxset - the US version that looks like a filing cabinet!
> 
> I'd love to rip my DVD/BR collection, but that feels like a very long term 
> project from where I'm sitting - short of getting a bank of computers and 
> fast DVD drives!
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:53 PM PGage <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Rockford and Gunsmoke (selected episodes at least) are available to stream on 
> Peacock and CBS Access, respectively).
> 
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:48 PM Steve Timko <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Some of those older shows hold up well. "The Rockford Files" is still good. 
> I'm not elevating "Gunsmoke" to literature, but the plots were sometimes 
> nuanced. I couldn't watch the first 10 minutes of the show and tell you 
> exactly how it was going to go. Well, except that Marshal Dillon would ride 
> in at the end and make everything good.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:31 PM PGage <[email protected] 
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> It might seem like you can stream almost any old TV show, but there actually 
> are a lot that are not available, even when they are available on DVD. Does 
> anyone here know why that is?
> 
> I can stream Mission Impossible and Perry Mason, and of course Twilight Zone, 
> but not Mannix or Barnaby Jones or Cannon, nor The Fugitive or, one of my 
> favorite shows from back in the day, Harry O. 
> 
> I’m contemplating getting some of these on DVD (I have not purchased TV DVDs 
> since I made the decision to spend my TV money on streaming rather than disks 
> back when Netflix first started charging separately to stream), but don’t 
> want to do that if something is likely to change relatively soon. 
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