How could I expect CBS Access to make room for Cannon when they have
premium content like Real Husbands of Hollywood to stream?

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 10:17 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> wrote:

> It appears that Viacom/CBS owns the Quinn Martin library, so if those were
> going to stream anywhere, I'd expect it to be CBS All Access. Maybe when
> they "relaunch" in 2021, those shows will be part of the content. Or maybe
> not -- there's no real indication that they're adding any amount of older
> programming in recent articles such as this:
> https://www.indiewire.com/2020/07/cbs-all-access-to-relaunch-acquires-spongebob-prequel-1234577255/
>
> Similarly, it appears that Warner Bros. owns the rights to "Harry O,"
> so... HBO Max? Probably don't hold your breath for that one.
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2020, at 10:06 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So, you are suggesting it would cost Hulu or Amazon more in Rights and
> residual fees than the value they would get from new or retained
> subscribers. I considered that, but then, how do the economics work for DVD
> sales?  The complete set for The Fugitive (4 Seasons, 120 episodes, 32
> discs) costs $45.50 on Amazon. It seems like they could find a price point
> for the Steaming Rights for that show that would result in at least as many
> views on Hulu as box sets sold. I guess Hulu does really make money from
> views, but still it seems like The Fugitive would provide better filler
> content at a lower price than a lot of the other crap I currently see on
> Hulu. Not to mention, if I’m Hulu (or whatever) it seems I could carve out
> a pretty lucrative niche marketing myself to aging Boomers as the home of
> TV content of their youth, maybe something like a “Quinn Martin Collection”.
>
> OTOH, while I do have a fair number of TV box sets from pre 2010 or so
> (including my prize possession, the West Wing set in the Blue White House
> Box), I am not convinced that route makes economic ,ic sense for me
> Anymore, especially for B and C level material. Even a bargain like The
> Fugitive represents about 4 months of Hulu, which gives me access to so
> many more hours and variety of content, and allows my three grown children,
> each in different geographical locations than me (in non-COVID conditions)
> to access it as well. I would rather have Hulu for a year than 3 QM box
> sets.
>
> That said, that price for The Fugitive Box set is looking better and
> better to me. Unlike the 2 seasons of Harry O, which come to about $90).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:27 PM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> From what I can gather it's simply money. Most of the streaming services
>> disproportionately target young audiences - so you find few shows made
>> before 2000 on them. That may be slightly different with something like CBS
>> All Access or Peacock which are owned by networks and may have their own
>> wares to throw on at little cost. But even then, there may be residuals
>> due. And of course just because a show aired on NBC doesn't mean they own
>> it. Why nobody has Homicide: Life on the Streets available, I don't know.
>>
>> I think it's simply a choice they make. And older stuff tends to get
>> missed out. It does frustrate me that many people will only watch a movie
>> if it's on Netflix or Amazon. Most films aren't on those channels or their
>> ilk. Indeed, amazingly, many films aren't even on the rental sites like
>> Apple or Google Play.
>>
>> Personally I would be utterly lost without discs. I *still* buy them
>> because the picture quality is better (all the streamers crush the picture
>> compared to say Blu Ray), there are extras that you rarely find on
>> streaming, and most importantly, I know I'll have access to them this time
>> next week or next year. Stuff comes and goes, and I'm not playing that
>> game. So yes, I have the Homicide boxset - the US version that looks like a
>> filing cabinet!
>>
>> I'd love to rip my DVD/BR collection, but that feels like a very long
>> term project from where I'm sitting - short of getting a bank of computers
>> and fast DVD drives!
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:53 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Rockford and Gunsmoke (selected episodes at least) are available to
>>> stream on Peacock and CBS Access, respectively).
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:48 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some of those older shows hold up well. "The Rockford Files" is still
>>>> good. I'm not elevating "Gunsmoke" to literature, but the plots were
>>>> sometimes nuanced. I couldn't watch the first 10 minutes of the show and
>>>> tell you exactly how it was going to go. Well, except that Marshal Dillon
>>>> would ride in at the end and make everything good.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:31 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It might seem like you can stream almost any old TV show, but there
>>>>> actually are a lot that are not available, even when they are available on
>>>>> DVD. Does anyone here know why that is?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can stream Mission Impossible and Perry Mason, and of course
>>>>> Twilight Zone, but not Mannix or Barnaby Jones or Cannon, nor The Fugitive
>>>>> or, one of my favorite shows from back in the day, Harry O.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m contemplating getting some of these on DVD (I have not purchased
>>>>> TV DVDs since I made the decision to spend my TV money on streaming rather
>>>>> than disks back when Netflix first started charging separately to stream),
>>>>> but don’t want to do that if something is likely to change relatively 
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