For 13 year old boys in the early mid 1970s, who had zero actual experience in what makes women desirable, we were completely dependent on cultural signifiers. There was a naughty Farmer’s Daughter context for Mary Anne’s sexuality, but for the relatively sheltered early teens I ran with that was less accessible than Ginger’s Marilyn Monroe story, which even pre-pubescent boys were familiar with.
My preference for Mary Ann had more to do with a family culture which had always been somewhat condescending to the Monroe persona. On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 7:59 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:45 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And I was always a Mary Ann guy... >> >> When I was a kid most boys my age were strongly Ginger, then sometime in >> my 20s the tide shifted toward Mary Ann. I was never sure if that was a >> developmental (guys gradually maturing out of a sex pot obsession) or >> cultural (tide turning away from the more artificial, manufactured persona >> towards a putatively more natural and honest appeal) effect. >> > > I'm surprised there was a pro-Ginger faction. I always thought the Ginger > vs Mary Ann question was extremely biased toward Mary Ann because Ginger > was aloof, self centered, and high maintenance. Mary Ann was independent > and accessible. > > I also Ginger vs Mary Ann came at the end of a singular White cultural > phenomenon. From watching movies from the decades preceding the 1950s we > see diversity in what was seen as sexy in White women. When Marilyn Monroe > emerged it's like she generated a gravity field around her. For the culture > her persona defined sexiness and women were seen as sexy when trying to be > like her. That template didn't break until the mid-60s when youth culture > promoted other looks as sexy. Ginger was Monroe style and Mary Ann was > closer to the new sensibility. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiFOS3vELzc2Zo_6a7-HEV%2Bo5bs2HELwhkNhQNtt1OAtYg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiFOS3vELzc2Zo_6a7-HEV%2Bo5bs2HELwhkNhQNtt1OAtYg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLGiG-KnCk7eZBB9EPthsH47%2BaZALweNjKXzysPAA1zjg%40mail.gmail.com.
