In episode 2 of the Australian docuseries "Love on the Spectrum" (currently on Netflix--I'll use the "docu" term because it was on the pubcaster ABC instead of one of the commercial networks), one of the people on the autistic spectrum the series is about has brought his spectrum girl friend to a con, but she already knows that his real reason for being there is to meet Dawn Wells and get her autograph on a book about "Gilligan," so she's off cosplaying elsewhere in the hall while he meets Mary Ann in person. She does not disappoint him and seems as charming as she always was in public.
Mark Jeffries [email protected] On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 11:09 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > For 13 year old boys in the early mid 1970s, who had zero actual > experience in what makes women desirable, we were completely dependent on > cultural signifiers. There was a naughty Farmer’s Daughter context for Mary > Anne’s sexuality, but for the relatively sheltered early teens I ran with > that was less accessible than Ginger’s Marilyn Monroe story, which even > pre-pubescent boys were familiar with. > > My preference for Mary Ann had more to do with a family culture which had > always been somewhat condescending to the Monroe persona. > > On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 at 7:59 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:45 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And I was always a Mary Ann guy... >>> >>> When I was a kid most boys my age were strongly Ginger, then sometime in >>> my 20s the tide shifted toward Mary Ann. I was never sure if that was a >>> developmental (guys gradually maturing out of a sex pot obsession) or >>> cultural (tide turning away from the more artificial, manufactured persona >>> towards a putatively more natural and honest appeal) effect. >>> >> >> I'm surprised there was a pro-Ginger faction. I always thought the Ginger >> vs Mary Ann question was extremely biased toward Mary Ann because Ginger >> was aloof, self centered, and high maintenance. Mary Ann was independent >> and accessible. >> >> I also Ginger vs Mary Ann came at the end of a singular White cultural >> phenomenon. From watching movies from the decades preceding the 1950s we >> see diversity in what was seen as sexy in White women. When Marilyn Monroe >> emerged it's like she generated a gravity field around her. For the culture >> her persona defined sexiness and women were seen as sexy when trying to be >> like her. That template didn't break until the mid-60s when youth culture >> promoted other looks as sexy. Ginger was Monroe style and Mary Ann was >> closer to the new sensibility. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiFOS3vELzc2Zo_6a7-HEV%2Bo5bs2HELwhkNhQNtt1OAtYg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiFOS3vELzc2Zo_6a7-HEV%2Bo5bs2HELwhkNhQNtt1OAtYg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLGiG-KnCk7eZBB9EPthsH47%2BaZALweNjKXzysPAA1zjg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLGiG-KnCk7eZBB9EPthsH47%2BaZALweNjKXzysPAA1zjg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi86qTf9R_SyYdSC3A5epjtF%2BcaokDEiHSNyVtNEDGqmGQ%40mail.gmail.com.
