I won’t claim to know whether Schefter is a serious journalist, but for serious in-depth stories (where libel laws can bite reporters in the ass), it would be allowed (in some cases even expected) to send rough drafts to sources or subjects named in the piece for review. Writers shouldn’t be under any obligation to make every change suggested by the person or persons they send it to, but such practices do occur.
If memory serves, Woodward showed Trump an advanced copy of his book about him. I assume someone helped Trump with the big words. On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:24 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > Running someone's quote by them is kosher. Sending the whole story and > letting them approve it is not. you're essentially becoming a stenographer > for the powerful at that > A simple rule for journalists is only to do things you are willing to tell > the readers. Was the reporter willing to tell readers that a source vetted > the entire story? > You can run buy the gist of the story without surrendering the story. > > Reporting is a hard job if you have to dig up information. It looks like > Schefter sold his soul to develop a relationship with an important source > to guarantee the flow of information. > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 2:59 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Right, but this is different than calling a source, telling them you are >> running a story tomorrow that says “X” and asking for comment. This is bad. >> >> The questions I have is, 1) is this really just a one off for Schefter, >> or something he has done with some regularity? (Someone please ask him if >> there is even one other instance of him showing a source a story before >> publication) and 2) is this really just Schefter, or is this something not >> uncommon among the very clubby NFL insider “journalists”? It has become >> common wisdom to dunk on NYT political reporters for getting stories by >> playing up to special inside stories (yes, looking at you Maggie), but this >> seems to be business as usual for NFL television reporters, who mostly seem >> to take dictation from league sources anyway. >> >> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 2:05 PM Doug Fields <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Maybe it’s just my lack of formal journalism training, but I fail to see >>> what all the fuss is about. Are people confusing the fact that Bruce Allen >>> was a source for Schefter’s story, and misconstruing him as the * >>> *subject** of the story? I see nothing wrong with consulting with >>> somebody you used as a source and reconfirming that you’re quoting him >>> accurately and making sure you’re correctly reporting some complicated >>> aspect of the story from his perspective. Let him see the complete story? >>> Sure, why not?…you wouldn’t be **required** to use his follow-up >>> input…it’s just a courtesy call, to make sure you’ve got your story >>> straight. >>> >>> >>> >>> And even if he had been the subject, just about every big journalism >>> movie has that scene where the reporter calls the Senator whose life is >>> about to become front-page news, asking him if he has any comment on the >>> story that’s “gonna hit the papers tomorrow morning.” Again, unless >>> there’s some sort of editorial approval deal in place, I still wouldn’t see >>> an ethical problem with giving him an advance copy of the story just so you >>> can append the usual “No comment” to the end of it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug Fields >>> >>> Tampa, FL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On >>> Behalf Of *Steve Timko >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:36 AM >>> *To:* TV or Not TV <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [TV orNotTV] ESPN’s Adam Schefter crosses a journalistic line >>> >>> >>> >>> Take a look at this story from the Poynter Institute >>> https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2021/espns-adam-schefter-crosses-a-journalistic-line/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yzwXp8QQkLN9Bwn%2BfLg8%2B4OD-TTxN5tix3bjvgPUBGnWw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yzwXp8QQkLN9Bwn%2BfLg8%2B4OD-TTxN5tix3bjvgPUBGnWw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/BN6PR14MB161932F1AC3C4FC651A23B6BC6B89%40BN6PR14MB1619.namprd14.prod.outlook.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/BN6PR14MB161932F1AC3C4FC651A23B6BC6B89%40BN6PR14MB1619.namprd14.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK%2Bfm5JGj_Bdo7b1UCFB6R6EMmYNt8TUtsOEqvSQFWYaw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK%2Bfm5JGj_Bdo7b1UCFB6R6EMmYNt8TUtsOEqvSQFWYaw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yyoHx7khaFE8NUmY91O1688uDDUR%2BC7KTy1-tEzPutMdA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yyoHx7khaFE8NUmY91O1688uDDUR%2BC7KTy1-tEzPutMdA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Kevin M. 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