On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 9:40 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have been following this a bit today as things unfolded online. Any > thoughts as to why Variety and Deadline seemed to be pushing the story > initially as “Strike is over, Union won!”, when so many Union workers > almost immediately panned it as DOA? Are the media outlets in the pockets > of producers, or were they misled by Union Leadership? > > My Union (Mental Health workers at Kaiser) is currently voting on a strike > authorization. My impression is that the Union leadership is more radical > (pro-strike) than the membership, though we may well vote fir our third > strike in five years. But I am interested in why (if indeed the case) the > leadership of the ISTSE seems to be more conservative than it’s membership? >
My response would be anecdotal, but my friends still in the industry believe there’s a genuine disconnect between union leadership and those working the union jobs. It’s not that they screwed up; it’s that the leadership doesn’t even realize the extent to which they failed the workers. The leadership thought it was a win, based on what I couldn’t begin to speculate. The biggest issues — the hours and the pay difference — we’re almost totally ignored. It’s like sending a spouse to the store for milk but the spouse comes back with cheese. It might be nice cheese, but they needed milk. > On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 9:23 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Looks like the actual contract won’t be voted on for a few weeks when >> they’ve finalized the language. In the meantime, production will continue >> and the majority seems to be planning to vote against it. >> >> >> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-deal-backlash-nothing-changed-1235091286/ >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 3:33 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It addresses exactly none of the cited grievances. The disparity between >>> network/studio and streaming pay still exists, and the hours change can be >>> ignited if crews adopt a six day production week as standard, which many do >>> already (hence the problem). If I was in IATSE, I’d be ten types of pissed. >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:50 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Social media seems not to be satisfied. I would suspect it may not be >>>> ratified and there might be wildcat strikes tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Mark Jeffries >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 8:45 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-and-amptp-agreement-strike-averted-1235081349/ >>>>> >>>>> B >>>>> >>>>> Mark Jeffries, in part, Oct 13th: >>>>> >>>>>> The walkout would essentially shut down film and television >>>>>> production in North America--the union representing thousands of >>>>>> below-the-line employees claims that the Association of Motion Picture >>>>>> and >>>>>> Television Producers is dragging its feet on new contracts: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/iatse-strike-date-set-1235028690/ >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c192d8b5-a036-4f9f-85d9-9a9c7adb20d8n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c192d8b5-a036-4f9f-85d9-9a9c7adb20d8n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi_qzEzS6mw6orajjwN2vV-p7%3Dw%2B%2BLgnX4h7MjWurPZP2A%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi_qzEzS6mw6orajjwN2vV-p7%3Dw%2B%2BLgnX4h7MjWurPZP2A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>> >> -- >> Kevin M. (RPCV) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4BExaNaD2%3DPd2Hm3M_7xdd0xW659b%2Bhmvw5hOR4L7MJeQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4BExaNaD2%3DPd2Hm3M_7xdd0xW659b%2Bhmvw5hOR4L7MJeQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYL%2Bz9NdN5%2BeWCx0VEy9E%3DSHAGXu2sa7xuOygpJ963Mo%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYL%2Bz9NdN5%2BeWCx0VEy9E%3DSHAGXu2sa7xuOygpJ963Mo%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4ARq%3DJWASSPvVwo_%3DPaerpHZvZFC%3DjiYHWuJBfdqyJyrA%40mail.gmail.com.
