Have failed my wife in that way on occasion, but because I was not effectively listening to my wife, not because a Big Cheese Company paid me to get cheese instead of milk.
My grandfather worked on the line for Ford for 30 years, and I remember he felt that there were times when the Union leaders, fat and well paid and more used to fancy board rooms than the assembly line, had forgotten what it was like fir the guys on the floor. On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 9:56 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 9:40 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I have been following this a bit today as things unfolded online. Any >> thoughts as to why Variety and Deadline seemed to be pushing the story >> initially as “Strike is over, Union won!”, when so many Union workers >> almost immediately panned it as DOA? Are the media outlets in the pockets >> of producers, or were they misled by Union Leadership? >> >> My Union (Mental Health workers at Kaiser) is currently voting on a >> strike authorization. My impression is that the Union leadership is more >> radical (pro-strike) than the membership, though we may well vote fir our >> third strike in five years. But I am interested in why (if indeed the case) >> the leadership of the ISTSE seems to be more conservative than it’s >> membership? >> > > My response would be anecdotal, but my friends still in the industry > believe there’s a genuine disconnect between union leadership and those > working the union jobs. It’s not that they screwed up; it’s that the > leadership doesn’t even realize the extent to which they failed the > workers. The leadership thought it was a win, based on what I couldn’t > begin to speculate. The biggest issues — the hours and the pay difference — > we’re almost totally ignored. It’s like sending a spouse to the store for > milk but the spouse comes back with cheese. It might be nice cheese, but > they needed milk. > > >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 9:23 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Looks like the actual contract won’t be voted on for a few weeks when >>> they’ve finalized the language. In the meantime, production will continue >>> and the majority seems to be planning to vote against it. >>> >>> >>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-deal-backlash-nothing-changed-1235091286/ >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 3:33 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It addresses exactly none of the cited grievances. The disparity >>>> between network/studio and streaming pay still exists, and the hours change >>>> can be ignited if crews adopt a six day production week as standard, which >>>> many do already (hence the problem). If I was in IATSE, I’d be ten types of >>>> pissed. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:50 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Social media seems not to be satisfied. I would suspect it may not be >>>>> ratified and there might be wildcat strikes tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> Mark Jeffries >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 8:45 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/iatse-and-amptp-agreement-strike-averted-1235081349/ >>>>>> >>>>>> B >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Jeffries, in part, Oct 13th: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The walkout would essentially shut down film and television >>>>>>> production in North America--the union representing thousands of >>>>>>> below-the-line employees claims that the Association of Motion Picture >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Television Producers is dragging its feet on new contracts: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/iatse-strike-date-set-1235028690/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c192d8b5-a036-4f9f-85d9-9a9c7adb20d8n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c192d8b5-a036-4f9f-85d9-9a9c7adb20d8n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi_qzEzS6mw6orajjwN2vV-p7%3Dw%2B%2BLgnX4h7MjWurPZP2A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi_qzEzS6mw6orajjwN2vV-p7%3Dw%2B%2BLgnX4h7MjWurPZP2A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kevin M. 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