I have not worked the Oscars, but I’ve worked nearly every other awards show, and been in or around the writers room for those. True, a comic might submit a joke or two if he/she is presenting, but it is rare and extremely rare that a joke is not rehearsed multiple times before the live show. I’ll reach out to Bruce Vilanch on his Facebook, as he has years of direct experience in those writers rooms. But I would say at the very least there was collaboration between the room and Rock.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 12:37 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > So, it’s not clear to me that this “joke” went through that process. Rock > seemed to have been given a few minutes to do some material before he > announced the Documentary Award (already odd, since the show started with > probably two too many comics as hosts). I doubt Rock was doing jokes > written by show staff writers. During the first commercial break reports > came out that the show Producers had released a statement that the > interaction between Smith and Rock did not happen in rehearsal, which was > their way of saying it was a real slap at a time when for many it still was > not clear. But that does suggest that at least Rock did go through some > sort of walk through or rehearsal the day before. > > I would like to find out if Rock had pre-written that GI Jane 2 joke in > advance (cleared or not at the rehearsal), because it seemed to me that it > was a more or less spontaneous riff he came up with in the moment, I > suspect to strike the next (small) blow in what had been a bit of an > ongoing feud. If true, this mitigates the crime IMO, as it makes it more > likely he did not know or think about the Alopecia or Jada’s reflections on > how emotionally painful it had been. Perhaps he saw her when he came out, > assumed it was a fashion statement, and hit her with what otherwise would > be a minor blow. The first time Smith tells him to get Jada name out of his > mouth (an unfortunate idiomatic choice, judging by the nasty jokes on my > Twitter feed) Rock says: “it was just a GI Jane joke!”, and then appears to > be about to add something before he thinks better of it. I imagined he was > going to say something like: “Shit, if I I knew I was going to get slapped > anyway I would have told one of my real jokes about her.” > > If he actually wrote the joke in advance, did it at rehearsal, had it > cleared by what was widely and proudly referred to as the first Black > production team in Oscar history, and nobody noticed or cared about the > reason for her baldness, then the Dickish rating on the joke goes way up. > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 10:29 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can’t help but think that all these shows have writers… multiple writers. >> And producers… multiple producers. They all approved the joke. The sacred >> “Academy” approved the joke. Is Will Smith going to slap all of them, too? >> Will he also slap hundred for initially laughing at the joke? >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:12 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sue T has no clues, either... I'll give her till 5.25pm east, which is >>> after Steve starts taping on a normal day. B >>> >>> Mark Jeffries, to Brad Beam and PGage, March 28th: >>> >>>> Comedy shows this weekend--hell, what about tonight! Comcast is still >>>> running the generic description for Colbert for tonight, but I assume with >>>> the NCAA into the Elite Eight he will be back. 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