Suffice it to say, there's a lot going on under the surface here. Not only do we have this: https://people.com/style/jada-pinkett-smith-dont-give-2-craps-what-people-think-of-bald-head-before-2022-oscars/, I also read a long and informative Twitter thread this morning examining how slapping is a long-time Scientology technique used to maintain pecking order and discipline. Cruise doesn't go that far, but substitutes screaming and freezing out people.
Let's not let this shitshow distract us from the bigger message of the show: it was probably the worst Oscarcast in history, with truly terrible writing, the most inappropriate death reel imaginable (complete with a tribute to Betty White, whose cinematic legacy will last a lifetime), and Schumer in a Spider-Man suit and Hall feeling up actors substituting for virtually any mention of the honorary Oscars* and craft awards. (*Squeezing those mentions into ten seconds at the ass-end of the show does not count.) My only hope is that, in spite of the increased (though still crappy) ratings, this might be the beginning of the end for this idiotic spectacle. --Dave Sikula On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 9:07:49 PM UTC-7 PGage wrote: > So Matt Belloni is reporting that Rock did not know about the Alopecia. > Combined with the report that the GI Jane joke was not in the script, Rock > starts to look better and better. Maybe still nicer and smarter not to make > a joke about a woman’s personal appearance, but not a case of knowingly > making a joke about her medical condition. So Rock is genuinely confused by > Smith’s overreaction. > > Belloni also reports that there actually were discussions about removing > Smith from the Hall during the commercial break, but they couldn’t make a > decision, in large part worried about the optics if he refused to go > willingly and they had images of white security guards dragging the biggest > Black movie star out of the building. And what would Denzel and Tyler Perry > have done? > > https://puck.news/author/matthew-belloni/ > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 12:36 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So, it’s not clear to me that this “joke” went through that process. Rock >> seemed to have been given a few minutes to do some material before he >> announced the Documentary Award (already odd, since the show started with >> probably two too many comics as hosts). I doubt Rock was doing jokes >> written by show staff writers. During the first commercial break reports >> came out that the show Producers had released a statement that the >> interaction between Smith and Rock did not happen in rehearsal, which was >> their way of saying it was a real slap at a time when for many it still was >> not clear. But that does suggest that at least Rock did go through some >> sort of walk through or rehearsal the day before. >> >> I would like to find out if Rock had pre-written that GI Jane 2 joke in >> advance (cleared or not at the rehearsal), because it seemed to me that it >> was a more or less spontaneous riff he came up with in the moment, I >> suspect to strike the next (small) blow in what had been a bit of an >> ongoing feud. If true, this mitigates the crime IMO, as it makes it more >> likely he did not know or think about the Alopecia or Jada’s reflections on >> how emotionally painful it had been. Perhaps he saw her when he came out, >> assumed it was a fashion statement, and hit her with what otherwise would >> be a minor blow. The first time Smith tells him to get Jada name out of his >> mouth (an unfortunate idiomatic choice, judging by the nasty jokes on my >> Twitter feed) Rock says: “it was just a GI Jane joke!”, and then appears to >> be about to add something before he thinks better of it. I imagined he was >> going to say something like: “Shit, if I I knew I was going to get slapped >> anyway I would have told one of my real jokes about her.” >> >> If he actually wrote the joke in advance, did it at rehearsal, had it >> cleared by what was widely and proudly referred to as the first Black >> production team in Oscar history, and nobody noticed or cared about the >> reason for her baldness, then the Dickish rating on the joke goes way up. >> >> On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 10:29 AM Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Can’t help but think that all these shows have writers… multiple >>> writers. And producers… multiple producers. They all approved the joke. The >>> sacred “Academy” approved the joke. Is Will Smith going to slap all of >>> them, too? Will he also slap hundred for initially laughing at the joke? >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:12 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sue T has no clues, either... I'll give her till 5.25pm east, which is >>>> after Steve starts taping on a normal day. B >>>> >>>> Mark Jeffries, to Brad Beam and PGage, March 28th: >>>> >>>>> Comedy shows this weekend--hell, what about tonight! Comcast is still >>>>> running the generic description for Colbert for tonight, but I assume >>>>> with >>>>> the NCAA into the Elite Eight he will be back. Kimmel is probably >>>>> wishing >>>>> that he was on last night in the post-Oscars slot instead of the "Idol" >>>>> clip show. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/bffcb6a4-a031-4b0b-8575-5f98930b51ddn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/bffcb6a4-a031-4b0b-8575-5f98930b51ddn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. 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