On the return to play question, something fishy is going on. The NFL is trying to walk that back now, but the ESPN broadcast mentioned four times that teams had been told they had five minutes to warm up, and footage of Joe Burrow warming up was shown. I also saw indications that ESPN Deportes and Westwood One radio said the same thing. It's obvious to me that that message was sent to the teams and the broadcasters. By who, I don't know, but the NFL would do well to admit that it happened, and move on.
I think ESPN had the right set of people working last night. Scott Van Pelt is the only one there, IMO, who can hold Bob Ley's microphone in terms of being the conscience of the network, and a serious voice when necessary. I just hope that the medical personnel got there quickly enough such that Hamlin is able to make a full recovery. Having been intubated twice, I can say that it sucks but it beats the hell out of the alternative. John On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 3:24 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I am on my lunch break from work, and tried to review any breaking news on > this story, though may have missed something. I hope we can still say that > referring to him as a “Dying man” is inaccurate. A lot depends on the > specifics of his case, but we do know of athletes in similar situations who > recovered, and even returned to play. > > My understanding is that it is unclear if the NFL ever ordered teams to > get ready to resume play; Troy Vincent, a former player who is now a > ranking NFL official has strongly denied this, though Buck did say last > night that League sources had told the announcers that the teams had been > given a 5 min warning. We shall see how that plays out. > > I think it is very unlikely that this event will end the NFL. While > tragic, this was basically a freak accident, and not really related to the > specific dangers of the game. OTOH, there are a number of serious and > catastrophic outcomes associated with the unique characteristics and rules > of the game, and policies of the League, and yet these have shown no sign > of ending the league. There seems to be way too much money being generated > by football to allow radical changes. > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 8:45 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> My brother is the biggest pro football fan I’ve ever encountered; he said >> the events of last night were the beginning of the end of football. I’d >> like to think he is correct, however we are a nation that experiences a >> mass shooting nearly every day, but does nothing to limit guns. America >> simply doesn’t care if football players live or die, as long as they have a >> game to watch. >> >> The only thing I saw that was potentially noteworthy was that the >> decision to end the game came from he coaches; the NFL allegedly wanted the >> game to resume shortly after the dying man was removed from the field. >> That’s very telling. >> >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 8:34 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am no cheerleader for the NFL, ESPN, or Joe Buck, but I give Buck, >>> Aikman and ESPN generally positive marks for how they handled an >>> unprecedented medical emergency during last night’s MNF telecast. >>> >>> As the severity of the incident became clear they were respectful and >>> restrained, and avoided speculation. When there wasn’t anything to say, >>> they noted that, and didn’t say anything. I thought it was smart to switch >>> to the studio and let those people fill time, rather than than have the >>> broadcasters on site do that. sideline reporter Lisa Salter really >>> distinguished herself, reporting what she could observe, filtering out what >>> must have been a flood of rumors and speculation, all while allowing her >>> humanity and emotion to appropriately come through. >>> >>> One problem with the restraint they showed is it created a vacuum into >>> which anti-vax poison got injected over social media. Qualified physicians >>> could tell what had likely happened, but I think ESPN was right not to put >>> one of those on, and instead restrict themselves to what was actually known. >>> >>> Hoping for the best for Damar Hamlin, and all the young people who had >>> to experience that. Until you actually witness medical professions engage >>> in life saving intervention, it is difficult to prepare yourself for what >>> it is like, and the sense that you might be watching someone you care about >>> die. I am often critical of cliched provision of mental health counselors >>> to the scene of emergencies, but this is a case where some of those folks >>> are going to need someone to talk to. >>> >>> “The eerie and heartbreaking scene that unfolded on the field in the >>> aftermath of Damar Hamlin’s collapse during Monday night’s Buffalo >>> Bills-Cincinnati Bengals game presented a virtually unprecedented scenario >>> for ESPN’s football broadcast. As the network toggled between the game >>> broadcast crew in Cincinnati and a subdued studio set in New York, a news >>> outlet that had prepared to cover one of the season’s biggest games >>> suddenly found itself covering a medical calamity. >>> >>> Viewers at home watched the developing story unfold slowly as >>> commentators Joe Buck and Troy Aikman and sideline reporter Lisa Salters >>> received information and relayed it in real time. Over the next three >>> hours, the broadcast was measured, informative and emotional. Analysts, >>> hosts and reporters tried to make sense of a lengthy delay and an initial >>> report that play would resume; grappled with the obvious severity of the >>> injury; and then finally made impassioned appeals for the game to be >>> suspended for the night, a choice the NFL eventually made.” >>> >>> >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/01/02/espn-damar-hamlin-bengals-bills/ >>> -- >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJ0VNdgyyU5Rjuxmk2YUTuwO%3DK6gYke6An%3D60Qr3dG08w%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJ0VNdgyyU5Rjuxmk2YUTuwO%3DK6gYke6An%3D60Qr3dG08w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >> >> >>> -- >> Kevin M. 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