There was a similar situation with Ryan Shazier of the Steelers a few years ago when he suffered a spinal injury also on a Monday night game in Cincinnati. The Steelers kept him on the payroll for a couple of years even when it was clear he would no longer be able to play football.
On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 7:30 PM 'brugdr' via TVorNotTV < [email protected]> wrote: > I made the statement based on my read of this NFL.com article. > > > https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-to-honor-damar-hamlin-medical-staff-patriots-game-pay-salary > > Yes, the Bills are paying his salary in full, but the following text from > the article suggests this is a special case. > > "Though Hamlin's four-year, $3.64 million rookie contract contains a > standard split to pay him at a lower rate if he lands on IR, Buffalo worked > out an agreement with the NFL and NFLPA to pay his full rate for Week 18's > games, Rapoport reported." > > Presumably if Rapaport had it wrong, the league would say so on its own > website. > > This may be specific to rookie contracts, I don't know. > > David > > > Sent on my Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tom Wolper <[email protected]> > Date: 1/8/23 15:57 (GMT-08:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: How ESPN Covered MNF Medical Emergency > > I’ve seen that Hamlin is on IR and the Bills said they will pay his whole > salary. > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 6:54 PM Doug Fields <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Where did you hear that about salaries while on IR? That's not true, as >> I understand it. The Collective Bargaining Agreement between the players' >> union and the NFL guarantees a player is paid their full contract if the >> player suffers a "football-related injury" (defined as any injury >> associated with game play or practice/workouts at the team's facilities) >> that puts them on the injured list. Players who can't play due to >> non-football-related injuries can be denied their full pay at the team's >> discretion. >> >> Hamlin's injury would definitely fall under the football-related >> definition, and he should be paid his full salary if he's placed on the >> Injured Reserve list (I'm not sure if his official roster status has been >> changed yet at this point). >> >> Doug Fields >> Tampa, FL >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:58 AM >> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: How ESPN Covered MNF Medical Emergency >> >> A brief check of the NFL home page this morning echoes this approach. A >> lot of organized celebration to make it look like the league isn't patting >> itself on the back for avoiding worse optics. That the Bills are doing a >> lot to recognize Hamlin makes sense to me. The league-wide celebrations >> push this into contrivance for me. >> >> And today I learned that standard contracts (not sure if this is just for >> the first/rookie contract or not) are set up so a player on injured reserve >> doesn't get full salary. If I didn't already wish ill of the NFL, I would >> now. >> >> David >> >> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 07:06:55 AM PST, PGage <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> I gave ESPN good marks for how they handled Damar Hamlin’s dramatic and >> life threatening injury last Monday Night. I give them much lower marks for >> how they handled Saturday’s games. With the very welcome news of positive >> developments for Hamlin (who still has a long way to go), ESPN switched >> from the restrained, minimalist journalistic stance they took Monday night >> to the full throated, sentimental, religiously transformative propaganda >> line that no doubt was set in the PR offices of the NFL. Joe Buck seemed to >> go as far as to suggest that the injury was actually a net good thing, as >> Hamlin’s recovery has been a unifying force for the nation, while Aikman >> proclaimed that Hamlin’s recovery was due to the power of prayer. >> >> One of my concerns is that this incident almost certainly really was a >> freak accident, less a function of the inherent violence in football than >> unusual timing and location of the contact during that tackle, or perhaps >> some unrecognized heart defect (this seems less likely to me). As a result >> it will be easy to write off all the dangers associated with football as >> part of the random dangers inherent in any activity. What is needed is a >> renewed and sustained focus on the very real, very serious, very high >> health risks associated specifically with tackle football. Of course >> neither ESPN nor any of the League’s other broadcast partners (and here the >> genius of the NFL partnering with almost every major outlet) has any >> business interest in focusing on that. >> >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/business/espn-nfl-damar-hamlin.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare >> >> >> On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 at 8:34 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am no cheerleader for the NFL, ESPN, or Joe Buck, but I give Buck, >> Aikman and ESPN generally positive marks for how they handled an >> unprecedented medical emergency during last night’s MNF telecast. >> >> As the severity of the incident became clear they were respectful and >> restrained, and avoided speculation. When there wasn’t anything to say, >> they noted that, and didn’t say anything. I thought it was smart to switch >> to the studio and let those people fill time, rather than than have the >> broadcasters on site do that. sideline reporter Lisa Salter really >> distinguished herself, reporting what she could observe, filtering out what >> must have been a flood of rumors and speculation, all while allowing her >> humanity and emotion to appropriately come through. >> >> One problem with the restraint they showed is it created a vacuum into >> which anti-vax poison got injected over social media. Qualified physicians >> could tell what had likely happened, but I think ESPN was right not to put >> one of those on, and instead restrict themselves to what was actually known. >> >> Hoping for the best for Damar Hamlin, and all the young people who had to >> experience that. Until you actually witness medical professions engage in >> life saving intervention, it is difficult to prepare yourself for what it >> is like, and the sense that you might be watching someone you care about >> die. I am often critical of cliched provision of mental health counselors >> to the scene of emergencies, but this is a case where some of those folks >> are going to need someone to talk to. >> >> “The eerie and heartbreaking scene that unfolded on the field in the >> aftermath of Damar Hamlin’s collapse during Monday night’s Buffalo >> Bills-Cincinnati Bengals game presented a virtually unprecedented scenario >> for ESPN’s football broadcast. As the network toggled between the game >> broadcast crew in Cincinnati and a subdued studio set in New York, a news >> outlet that had prepared to cover one of the season’s biggest games >> suddenly found itself covering a medical calamity. >> >> Viewers at home watched the developing story unfold slowly as >> commentators Joe Buck and Troy Aikman and sideline reporter Lisa Salters >> received information and relayed it in real time. Over the next three >> hours, the broadcast was measured, informative and emotional. Analysts, >> hosts and reporters tried to make sense of a lengthy delay and an initial >> report that play would resume; grappled with the obvious severity of the >> injury; and then finally made impassioned appeals for the game to be >> suspended for the night, a choice the NFL eventually made.” >> >> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/01/02/espn-damar-hamlin-bengals-bills/ >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BxoZd4%2BS6wrO2ozS_r0YZA6XCENogrhcVvgwpKZfUJwQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BxoZd4%2BS6wrO2ozS_r0YZA6XCENogrhcVvgwpKZfUJwQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1221494318.3892092.1673193533259%40mail.yahoo.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1221494318.3892092.1673193533259%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/BN6PR14MB1619CECA725F5397AC43C03AC6F99%40BN6PR14MB1619.namprd14.prod.outlook.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/BN6PR14MB1619CECA725F5397AC43C03AC6F99%40BN6PR14MB1619.namprd14.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiEPm%2B-uqxqmdrPDZYm1LQ7c73vY0LsO_dBS%3D4fL8UbP2g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiEPm%2B-uqxqmdrPDZYm1LQ7c73vY0LsO_dBS%3D4fL8UbP2g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/264245435.1287286.1673224242898%40yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/264245435.1287286.1673224242898%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. 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