So, I apologize if I gave the impression I was accusing Marti of writing something that was not true. All I meant was that, when it comes to a charge as extreme as that, I think it is good practice to provide a citation, and to not accept a report like that as true until seeing it in a reliable source (as opposed to “it’s all over Twitter”). I was on a short break from work or I would have looked for one myself.
Here is a story from USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/06/27/roseanne-barr-criticized-for-reprehensible-holocaust-comments/70362521007/ As Kevin notes, it does appear that this was RB being sarcastic, rather than seriously denying that any Jews were killed in the Holocaust. I have relatives who died in the Holocaust, so I don’t minimize the offense in such sarcasm (if that’s what it was), but neither do I equate bad taste sarcasm with literalism. I’m think RB is the kind of person who, now that she does not command a major cultural platform, is best ignored when she says or does something outrageous. Rallying the troops to publicly condemn her only confirms her persecution complex, and gives her a social impact she no longer deserves. On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 2:52 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > In context, she was discussing her misguided and evidence-free belief that > the most recent presidential election was fake. She claimed there was a > government issued mandate preventing anyone from stating otherwise, then > awkwardly segued to the quote Marti referenced. > > One of two things happened: either she meant it, or she forgot to add a > transitional phrase between the two disjointed thoughts (i.e.- the election > was not rigged, and if you believe that, nobody died in the Holocaust). > > In context doesn’t actually clarify anything except she is unwell and > probably should stay away from microphones until she’s sought mental health > care. That’s not a mandate, just a strong suggestion. > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:41 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> She said it during an interview with Theo Von. There is audio of it. >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:27 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Marti, I am no fan of RB, but that kind of quote is so ugly and ignorant >>> that I think it needs some reliable citation, otherwise I don’t think I can >>> regard it as true. >>> >>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 10:46 AM Marti Lawrence <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Don't know if he has seen this. She did an interview recently *(it's >>>> all over Twitter, I will not link to it)* saying: >>>> Her words: “Nobody died in the Holocaust. It should happen. Six >>>> millions Jews should die right now, because they cause all the problems in >>>> the world.” >>>> >>>> ~ Marti >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 5:15:53 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote: >>>> >>>> He's glad he stood up for her, but... he's not sure he'd work with her >>>> again... V sat down with him at the Monte-Carlo TV Festival, where he >>>> talked up "Righteous Gemstones," the Coens, and comparing British and >>>> American series... >>>> >>>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/john-goodman-roseanne-barr-the-conners-the-righteous-gemstones-1235653963/ >>>> (link) >>>> B >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1f81890f-958c-4455-9e35-0b89c9bbc9b9n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1f81890f-958c-4455-9e35-0b89c9bbc9b9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLEoBj1U%3D2oBjr62Tq9GGjzWxuUU7WyRV9tVLqaGO%3DH8w%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLEoBj1U%3D2oBjr62Tq9GGjzWxuUU7WyRV9tVLqaGO%3DH8w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Kevin M. (RPCV) >> > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4DOukrBZC_WN-zt8tn11sXgesNoT94LfoG%3D%2BhXpaFJMgQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4DOukrBZC_WN-zt8tn11sXgesNoT94LfoG%3D%2BhXpaFJMgQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BNHMTJQBNveHyVKnTU%2Ba8SMXXX%2Bc%3DkFqZHZoABm2ZXqA%40mail.gmail.com.
