I post this for the last two paragraphs. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/27/nx-s1-5555462/saudi-comedy-festival-chappelle-hart-maron
On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 11:54 AM Doug Eastick <[email protected]> wrote: > just for reference.... here's the Little Steven group diddy protesting > apartheid. a pretty long video for the times of MTV. > > > https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk?si=s46WSaP2QU8WcLHl > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 10:52 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There are similarities but it’s not the same thing. For years any time >> someone criticized the apartheid regime of South Africa, the government >> would talk about the communist leanings of African revolutionary movements >> and claim to be a bulwark against them. That was enough to shut up >> criticism from the West. Eventually a new grassroots campaign started >> around non-governmental actions like boycotts and disinvestment. South >> Africa became a pariah. It was fairly late in the process when Sun City >> opened and the owner tried to get entertainers to come with big paychecks. >> The point is that South Africa was already recognized as a pariah state. >> >> Saudi Arabia isn’t a pariah state. Reasonable people can sit in a room >> and debate whether they should be and whatever they decide won’t come to >> anything in the real world. Nobody is breaking a boycott by performing >> there. >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 9:09 AM Mark Smith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The Saudi situation reminds me of South Africa similar attempts that >>> tempted >>> with money to give up your soul. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 10:17 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/tvornottv/topics> >>>> Google >>>> Groups >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> >>>> [image: >>>> Google Groups Logo] >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> >>>> Topic digest >>>> View all topics >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/tvornottv/topics> >>>> >>>> - OT: Saudi royals pay big bucks for comics to perform >>>> >>>> <#m_4542503363816954176_m_3361078242209575107_m_2573486192193581401_m_1603801987758976694_group_thread_0> >>>> - 2 Updates >>>> - 'Access' Staffers Laid Off and It's Versant's Fault >>>> >>>> <#m_4542503363816954176_m_3361078242209575107_m_2573486192193581401_m_1603801987758976694_group_thread_1> >>>> - 1 Update >>>> >>>> OT: Saudi royals pay big bucks for comics to perform >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/751f7fdec9a9df57?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> >>>> Kevin M. <[email protected]>: Sep 28 02:49PM -0700 >>>> >>>> Pete Davidson and Bill Burr, among others. All being paid over $300k to >>>> attend a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia. Naturally, their free speech >>>> is >>>> restricted. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://variety.com/2025/politics/global/marc-maron-human-rights-riyadh-comedy-festival-1236530044/?fbclid=IwdGRjcANGi2dleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHq9XCn-5tz1PrkXQX1TwrE9afhdZGDzCuDlTDax5mfHp41nfUs9kAwCnjvux_aem_ffRsmd1pFf2Q1ETsYAAhLw >>>> >>>> People like Marc Maron are questioning the ethics of taking money from >>>> the >>>> same prince who not too long ago murdered a journalist. >>>> >>>> Leah Remini has weighed in. >>>> >>>> https://youtu.be/FDBqz1Va4Js?si=WPwgkooQELR6S6Pv >>>> >>>> >>>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>>> Tom Wolper <[email protected]>: Sep 28 07:45PM -0400 >>>> >>>> The Saudis are putting a ton of money into laundering their reputation, >>>> up >>>> to now through golf and soccer. I’ve seen some comics post their >>>> invitations to let their fans know they turned it down. 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