So it's ok to have margin on-top /bottom, just not left-right. I have my stuff contained within a span 10 with an offset of 1.
I really have a lot more questions. I have been fool with the code for a while now. edit making progress, got something to line up that was annoying for ages (removed some padding) Edit - Padding left or right, will affect the box, I see it now. - adjusting colour on span 10 'container' so the span 12 .... Question, I center a span 10 - inside a span 12with span 10 offset1 Is this the best way? I can post all of the code if needed, make it look the way I think it should look. On Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:44:35 UTC+10, Backspace wrote: > > ok that makes sense.So I can just remove the width (either margin or > padding) on any classes, and nest to position? > > did you see my pull right class? According to what you say, this is ok, > it's not adding width. > > Oh I have a while to go. > > Is it ok for an element to 'butt' up against it's parent, is that part of > the grid? > > > > On Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:41:04 UTC+10, Barry vd. Heuvel wrote: >> >> You can throw in as many classnames as you like, just be sure to not >> change the total width. Just inspect with your developer tools, to check >> the width/margins/etc. >> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Backspace <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> thanks man >>> >>> >>> "When using the default box-sizing, the paddings and margins are added >>> to the width (see >>> http://css-tricks.com/box-**sizing/<http://css-tricks.com/box-sizing/> ), >>> so when you add those classes to the same element as .spanX, the grid >>> doesn't fit, so use them in a element inside the span, not on the span >>> itself." >>> >>> So would say though >>> >>> so use them in a element inside the span (with no added margin /padding) >>> Hope that makes sense. I know what the box model is, but I guess I am >>> missing something, >>> >>> In this context >>> >>> >>> <div class="row"> >>> <div class="span8"> >>> <di vclass="myclasswithmargin"/> >>> </div> >>> </div> >>> >>> <div class="row"> >>> <div class="span8 myclasswithmargin"/> >>> </div> >>> >>> ------ >>> Say css is for first one >>> >>> .myclasswithmargin { >>> margin:10px 4px 20px 10px; >>> } >>> >>> Would do the same thing if it was for the second one, screw with the >>> framework. It's not just where you put the code (perhaps even in row) as >>> long as it does not fight the position of the structural elements. >>> >>> >>> This awesome example confuses me. The only dif >>> http://jsfiddle.net/Sherbrow/pnpUW/embedded/result/ >>> The onlyu dif in two examples is no class in row / but still in span. >>> Does that make sense? Because it confuses me, as you are telling me to >>> further separate classes. I thought you could throw class names into divs >>> willnilly. padding / margin aspects make sense though! >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:13:46 UTC+10, Barry vd. Heuvel wrote: >>> >>>> The .spanX classes have a margin. When you give it an extra class with >>>> margin, you overwrite the first margin. So you cannot combine the spanX >>>> class with classwithmargin. >>>> >>>> When using the default box-sizing, the paddings and margins are added >>>> to the width (see >>>> http://css-tricks.com/box-**sizing/<http://css-tricks.com/box-sizing/> ), >>>> so when you add those classes to the same element as .spanX, the grid >>>> doesn't fit, so use them in a element inside the span, not on the span >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> If you want to add padding/borders to the span elements, without >>>> changing the width, use border-box: http://paulirish.com/2012/box-** >>>> sizing-border-box-ftw/<http://paulirish.com/2012/box-sizing-border-box-ftw/> >>>> or >>>> the mixin: .box-sizing(@boxmodel); >>>> >>>> When you want to update easily, don't update the core bootstrap files, >>>> but overwrite them in a custom less file, you import after the bootstrap >>>> code (or custom css). This wil give more css output, but easier updates. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Backspace <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Barry >>>>> >>>>> That's what I was thinking, just use borders and padd content inside >>>>> of it, but leave the structural stuff to grid (starting to get it). I >>>>> suspect this will help me with responsive adjustment. >>>>> >>>>> Question1: >>>>> >>>>> If I do this >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <div class="row"> >>>>> <div class="span8"> >>>>> <di vclass="myclasswithmargin"/> >>>>> </div> >>>>> </div> >>>>> >>>>> is same as >>>>> >>>>> <div class="row"> >>>>> <div class="span8"**myclasswithmargin"/> >>>>> </div> >>>>> >>>>> (keeping inheritance and stake order in mind of course). >>>>> >>>>> Q2 >>>>> Some of my elements contain specific padding / margin for positioning. >>>>> Do I need to contain these inside further structural code to ensure they >>>>> respond according to the responsive features (I am sticking to fixed >>>>> width >>>>> boxes). I guess if it's not style, use the framework, makes perfect sense >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> Q3 >>>>> I use a custom.css file to add anything I want on-top. I am adding my >>>>> own updates into My Less file, but I realised if I update the core I >>>>> overwrite). Should I put all of my .less updates into a .less file called >>>>> after the bootstrap .less files? What's best practice and what's light >>>>> weight. >>>>> Q3a If you were working large scale project, would you even auto >>>>> update a site (with any type of frame work), or do it manually (Add bits >>>>> of >>>>> code from update as you see fit {as long as it works}) >>>>> >>>>> I have a few thousand lines of code to re-write. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:37:16 UTC+10, Barry vd. Heuvel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The span classes are calculated to fit exactly. When you add extra >>>>>> styles that change the width, it doesn't fit. >>>>>> So you can use styling, bit nothing that makes it larger, so no >>>>>> border or margins/paddings. >>>>>> But you could use the border-box model, to create borders/paddings, >>>>>> without changing the width >>>>>> Op 16 aug. 2012 06:21 schreef "Backspace" <[email protected]> >>>>>> het volgende: >>>>>> >>>>>> Cool >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using my own well class in the less file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So to recap. <class "row"> >>>>>>> <class "span4"> >>>>>>> <class "mywell"/> >>>>>>> </div> >>>>>>> </div> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can any one lese confirm that placing class names in spans (my own >>>>>>> classes) is bad practice? I can see your point, it's jut there will be >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> load of reworking going into my site if that's the case. It sounds fair >>>>>>> though. I can see sherbrow has pretty much confirmed this for me too, I >>>>>>> just thought I could place my own class names alongside the span class >>>>>>> div >>>>>>> tag. So <div class="span 5 myclass"> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It makes sense though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not had a chance to look at your code on how to achieve the, >>>>>>> let's call it 'float emulation', I am after. However I am currently >>>>>>> pulling >>>>>>> a row to the right. I guess this is bad too though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:14:56 UTC+10, Ryan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stupid IE 10 is sending blank messages when I reply. Guess that is >>>>>>>> what I get for using the release preview. So to recap, but shorter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure it messes with the formatting, but this is also a >>>>>>>> better practice. Only use grid/scaffolding classes for layout, put >>>>>>>> visible >>>>>>>> content inside them. I would also add your own clas, instead of just >>>>>>>> well, >>>>>>>> so you can override the css in the future if you want. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Backspace >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Ryan, thnaks (and you too >>>>>>>>> Sherbrow) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> first question - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With this code >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <div class="span5"><div class="content well">content</div></div> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would this not be the same? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <div class="span5 content well"></div> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am justa adding another couple of classes to the span 5. Or are >>>>>>>>> you sayin that the margins / padding in span 5 and well will conflict? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rather >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 16 August 2012 02:14:06 UTC+10, Sherbrow wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As said before, you should definitely not use formatting classes >>>>>>>>>> (like well - or you own styles) on scaffolding. >>>>>>>>>> The same for mixing spans and rows. The most obvious reason is >>>>>>>>>> that both those classes have different margin behavior, which >>>>>>>>>> creates >>>>>>>>>> paddings not supported by the grid. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here is an example of your first code, showing the differences >>>>>>>>>> (you can see that the 2nd col is actually a span4, which added to >>>>>>>>>> the span6 >>>>>>>>>> fills the span10) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/Sherbrow/**p******npUW/embedded/result/<http://jsfiddle.net/Sherbrow/pnpUW/embedded/result/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ryan idea about giving classes to style the content instead of >>>>>>>>>> the spans is definitely a good practice. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:20:50 PM UTC+2, Backspace wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is a pic to make it easier. Perhaps I need to use a clear >>>>>>>>>>> fix? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 14 August 2012 19:31:14 UTC+10, Backspace wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this is not clear, what I want to do. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
