I would like to back this up also, what I was referring to by a brach,was not a 
permanent one, but either creating a branch for the 4.0release or for 
multi-blog support, which would be merged back into thetrunk upon its 
stability, simply because multiblog support was alittle bit of a... bumpy 
migration for some. Since most of that hasbeen resolved, its more or less ok 
now, I would just make a point ofkeeping the web-migration interface working 
smoothly. I like to runtrunk in an attempt to make my hacks as pertinent as 
possible, and toprovide worthwhile and relevant feedback.
Cheers,Kevin KubasikOn 3/19/06, Gary Shewan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> On 18 
Mar 2006, at 20:36, Kevin Ballard wrote:> >> > You've taken what I said and 
interpreted it completely opposite to> > the meaning. I didn't say adding 
multiblog support would kill the> > project. I said trying to maintain two 
branches in parallel> > development, one as single-blog and one as multi-blog, 
would either> > kill a branch or kill the entire project (parallel development> 
> meaning any features/bugfixes written for one branch would, if> > applicable, 
have to be re-written for the other branch as well).> > The other option would 
be for someone else to start maintaining one> > of the branches and for it to 
basically become a fork. But that's> > certainly not desirable either.> >> > 
And see Piers's post for why Gary's original assertion is wrong.> >>> Jayzuz 
line me up against the wall and shoot me for opinions why not ;)>> That's 
exactly what I meant about two branches.  It probably was m!
e> who wasn't making it clear.  There's no way I'm buying that running> two 
branches would kill a project.  I still think that's complete> nonsense. I 
still say you're scare-mongering.  Nobody mentioned> forking.  The concerns 
being raised was why is such a significant> change being jammed into trunk when 
there are bugs that could be> hammered first for the release of Typo 4?  Trunk 
seemed to be broken> because of multi-blog support which is pretty annoying for 
those of> us who don't intend using multi-blog support ... can't you see that> 
problem?>> > Have you even read the patch?> >> > The reason that the current 
changes have gone into the trunk is> > because they're paving the way to 
*removing* bloat. In fact, they have> > already done so by eliminating the 
settings table and a bunch of> > structural code to manage it. You could think 
of r914 as a refactoring> > of the config object if you prefer.> >> > I have no 
desire to run multiple typo blogs on my site, but a blog> > !
object makes a lot of things that I do want to do a good deal easier> > to 
manage. I have every intention of making it so that the single blog> > case is 
at least as efficient as the (so far hypothetical) multiblog> > case, but I 
also need somewhere to stash a bunch of structural> > currently implemented in 
controllers that really doesn't belong> > there. That place is the blog 
object.> >> > I've not benchmarked it, but I'm willing to be that the new blog> 
> object is at least as efficient as the old Configuration and Setting> > 
objects.>> Admirable Piers.  But this is still a significant change> 
(seemingly).  Any particular reason that this was looked at now with> all the 
bugs outstanding, when there was supposed to be a push to> stable release 4?  
Could it not have been handled in a branch or do> you think it can be 
implemented pretty quickly?  Can you see why> users get irked when trunk breaks 
because of what is perceived to be> multi-blog support when we aren't going to !
use it?  Why should I test> that in trunk?  See my point?  Stamp on the bugs 
and get a release 4> out and I bet there wouldn't have been a peep.>> Listen 
lads, I'm not knocking your work at all.  I'm just trying to> put the argument 
forward from the users perspective.  Devils advocate> if you like, so don't 
send hate my way ;)  Surely you've had this> conversation a million times 
before in your real life development> work?  Is Typo a developers plaything or 
something people can really> use?  Because if it's for us to use those bugs 
need to go and we need> a stable release.  Not as cool as new or reordered code 
... but needed.> _______________________________________________> Typo-list 
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--Cheers,Kevin Kubasikhttp://blog.kubasik.net/
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