Tonix, let me say that you seem to have your bible as well: there are different business models and your point of view applies to one of them.
What is Typo3 as a whole if not an enormous investment? The problem here is that Typo3 should not be moved by corporate investments but by developer investments (by developer communities, to be more precise). And Typo3 and its extensions should be shared because that would increase the value of Typo3 as a product and all its developers as professionals. And to expose only the work of a group of them. At least in the intention of who founded Typo3. To be closed mind in my opinion is not to recognize that exist other ways to look at the same things and most of all have their dignity. BTW to me the meaning of publishing extensions on TER that are not GPL does not lead to protect customer investments, but only to give visibility to some work produced by someone. So what is really protected is the work made by the developer, not by the customer. But this is only a way to look at how to protect developers. The demonstration of this is that Typo3 had the ability to become one of the most used CMS in the world and a lot of people is making a living out of it. I too prefer FreeBSD to GPL because of how I works or how the business environment around me leads me to work. But I would not say to anyone that is closed mind because he either thinks different of me or has different needs. Il 17/12/2010 14.37, Tonix (Antonio Nati) ha scritto: > Kay, > > if TYPO3 rules are for you like a bible, and cannot be changed, this > is for me another announce of TYPO3 decadence. > > Instead I think rules can be changed, and most people should be > encouraged to use TYPO3, despite of how they use it. > The most people uses TYPO3, the most TYPO3 will benefit. > > Look at the FreeBSD licence please. Use me as you want, but use me. > GPL means: use me only if your work has not real value for you, > because you cannot invest on your work here. > > Your interest should be TYPO3 growing, and the most interested to a > great CMS are those companies which want to invest heavily on business > extensions. A lot of REAL professionist could use more TYPO3 and give > a huge contribute to TYPO3 API, structures and methodologies. > > A company which works on its own developments must protect its work. > If TYPO3 does not permit that, TYPO3 is not for professionals. > > Regards, > > Tonino > > > > Il 17/12/2010 14:04, Kay Strobach ha scritto: >> Hello Tonino, >> >> i do not understand your last post. >> >> To make you understand i my opinion collected some information from the >> official sites (below is the uri/source of the text) >> >> >>> Now, browse around, look in the categories, dive into the great >>> manuals and enjoy >>> the beauty of an ordered bazaars unified efforts to bring the most >>> powerful collection of CMS tools to you - >>> for free under the GPL license! >> http://typo3.org/extensions/what-are-extensions/ >> >> >>> By registering an extension key you accept that all content uploaded >>> to TER >>> (TYPO3 Extension Repository) matches these terms: >>> >>> * Published under the GPL license or GPL compatible >>> * You hold the copyright of the code or do not infringe the rights >>> of others (meaning that work from others must be under GPL or >>> GPL compatible already!) >>> >>> >>> Any extensions found to break these terms will be removed without >>> further >>> notice by the webmaster team. >> http://typo3.org/extensions/extension-keys/ >> >> >>> The official extension repository only consists of freely available >>> extensions. >> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/ >> >> >> Of course i do understand that programmers need more than grace for live >> (me too). But the're solutions for divinding Open and Closed Source >> Parts in an clean and absolute legal way. And that's what is my >> intention and must be the goal of TER - the legal rules in TER are >> clear. >> >> >> Additionally there is an interesting blog post @Novell: >> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/1532.html >> >> Discussion about GPL Joomla JED: >> http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leadership/636-jed-to-be-gpl-only-by-july-2009.html >> >> >> Best regards >> Kay >> >> Am 17.12.2010 13:41, schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati): >>> You are GPL, but closed mind. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tonino >>> >>> Il 17/12/2010 13:32, Kay Strobach ha scritto: >>>> Hi Tonino, >>>> >>>>> In this way I'm encouraged to use TYPO3. If I'm forced to go GPL, >>>>> I will >>>>> not use TYPO3. >>>> the core is GPL. That means, that everything which is not usable >>>> without >>>> the core or uses core API without any alternative is GPLed as far as i >>>> understand the GPL. >>>> >>>> The GPL do not force you to publish all your work. It does say: >>>> >>>> "If you publish/sell this product or a modification the code must be >>>> included." >>>> >>>> So if you decide to not publish an extension nobody has the right to >>>> force you to publish this extension - so you have the chance to >>>> sell it >>>> directly to someone who will than have all the rights which are >>>> granted >>>> with the GPL. If the product can be used standalone you can use any >>>> license you want. >>>> >>>> Especially for clearifying the situation for users the idea was to >>>> make >>>> the TER GPL only (what it should be with the current Terms of use.). >>>> Than you can use package_manager to show your own license and load >>>> your >>>> special package from your own server. (So the part which loads your >>>> code >>>> is definitly GPL). >>>> >>>> Conclusion: You're forced to go to GPL when product is completly >>>> dependent on TYPO3 core or a special extension which is GPL. This >>>> is the >>>> nature of TYPO3 core GPL licensing. But you can use what ever license >>>> you want if your work runs indepently from TYPO3 and uses something >>>> like >>>> an adapter to be integrated into TYPO3. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Kay >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TYPO3-english mailing list >>>> TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org >>>> http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> TYPO3-english mailing list >> TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org >> http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english >> > > -- ================================================== dott. Ivano Mario Luberti Archimede Informatica societa' cooperativa a r. l. 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