Hi,

On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 10:47, Heiko Stübner <he...@sntech.de> wrote:
>
> Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2019, 08:35:49 CEST schrieb Philipp Tomsich:
> > Simon,
> >
> > > On 18.04.2019, at 06:32, Simon Glass <s...@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kever,
> > >
> > > On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 02:21, Kever Yang <kever.y...@rock-chips.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Rockchip platform suppose to use TPL(run in SRAM) as dram init and
> > >> SPL(run in DDR SDRAM) as pre-loader, so that the SPL would not be
> > >> limited by SRAM size.
> > >> This patch add rk3399-board-tpl.c and its common configs.
> > >
> > > So this means that TPL inits SDRAM? That seems strange to me...why
> > > have SPL at all, then? What is SPL supported to do on RK3399
> > > platforms?
> >
> > For TPL->SPL implementation on Rockchip, we generally rely on the BootROM
> > to load the TPL stage (to SRAM) and the SPL stage (to the start of DRAM).  
> > The
> > BootROM usually limits the size of the SPL stage, so we can’t use a full 
> > U-Boot
> > already.
> >
> > Even more constricting are the TPL size constraints (as this seems to have 
> > originally
> > only been intended to be size-optimized DRAM init code) on some devices.
>
> and maybe for a broader functionality description, something needs to
> load things like ATF via a FIT image from a mmc for example.
> (which needs FIT code and also real mmc drivers).
>
> And as we experienced on rk3288 as well recently, SRAM may be very well
> too small to accomplish that, so TPL needs to init the sdram separately
> to make room for the code needed to get ATF up and running, which must
> be done before jumping into proper uboot.

I have to ask what the boot ROM is buying us? U-Boot TPL/SPL can load
programs itself without the boot ROM and its size limit. Why not just
stop using the boot ROM on these devices?

Regards,
Simon
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