Hi Momo,

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 13:35, momo aubin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> > On 12 Sep 2022, at 10:59 PM, momo aubin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 12 Sep 2022, at 8:31 PM, Simon Glass <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Aubin,
> >>
> >>>> On Mon, 12 Sept 2022 at 09:13, momo aubin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 12 Sept 2022 at 17:07, Simon Glass <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Aubin,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 12 Sept 2022 at 08:23, momo aubin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Simon,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your answer and explanations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The sequence of boot is :
> >>>>> RBL->UBL->UBOOT->Kernel->ROOTFS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> According to this sequence, ubl is the one who chooses which uboot 
> >>>>> needs to be started, then writing the script means writing them inside 
> >>>>> ubl. However, Ubl doesn't have access to the environment variable  in 
> >>>>> order to know which u-boot has been used first.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My question is .
> >>>>> Is it possible to choose another u-boot (u-boot2) inside the first 
> >>>>> u-boot (u-boot1) ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you please try that reply again, without top posting?
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=top+posting
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Simon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Aubin
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, 12 Sept 2022 at 15:35, Simon Glass <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Momo,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, 11 Sept 2022 at 08:29, momo aubin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Simon,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for getting back to me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How can I avoid top posting ? i'm a new
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can do a web search for "top posting" which explains the issue
> >>>>>> better than I can.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How uboot know that the kernel has started ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Generally it does not. U-Boot's job is typically over once it jumps to
> >>>>>> the kernel.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If the system is blocked during the u-boot stage, is it possible to 
> >>>>>>> restart all the systems ?
> >>>>>>> It is possible to put a timer in the u-boot stage in case of the 
> >>>>>>> kernel has not started , can the system reboot by choosing another 
> >>>>>>> u-boot ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You can use a watchdog timer to reboot the system. It can be set up in
> >>>>>> U-Boot, then it Linux does not kick it in time, it will cause a
> >>>>>> reboot. To choose another U-Boot, you would need to do some scripting,
> >>>>>> or use mender. There is some work on VBE going on (U-Boot standard
> >>>>>> boot) but it will take a while to all land.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> SImon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for your answer in advance.
> >>>>>>> Aubin
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 04:30, Simon Glass <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Aubin,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 01:40, momo aubin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Simon,
> >>>>>>>>> I got what is the 'dm tree' which is a driver model. This command 
> >>>>>>>>> could be done only in uboot stage. but i got the situation in which 
> >>>>>>>>> the initialisation of u-boot has not finished yet as showing in the 
> >>>>>>>>> following picture.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> .i would like to know what is wrong in the initialisation ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please try to avoid top posting.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think the best thing is to move to the latest U-Boot. You are about
> >>>>>>>> 9 years behind! But as to your question, I am really not sure. If it
> >>>>>>>> is a TI board, you could try asking them?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Simon
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best Regard,
> >>>>>>>>> Aubin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 05:24, momo aubin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Simon,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The script that you are telling it is Env.txt right ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What is a 'dm tree' ? Please could you provide me more infos about 
> >>>>>>>>>> this ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer in advance.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 at 02:21, Simon Glass <[email protected]> 
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aubin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 at 06:41, momo aubin <[email protected]> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any way that allows us to know that uboot has 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> initialised all his
> >>>>>>>>>>>> peripherals before starting loading kernel ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The goal of this check is to reset the board in case of bad 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> initialisation
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and choose a different uboot .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer in advance.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Aubin
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If there is a failure then it likely results in an error-return 
> >>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>> from board_init_f() or board_init_r(). These generally halt 
> >>>>>>>>>>> U-Boot /
> >>>>>>>>>>> cause a reboot. But this only covers the peripherals that U-Boot 
> >>>>>>>>>>> sets
> >>>>>>>>>>> up early, like serial, clocks, pinctrl, MMC, PCI, etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> U-Boot typically does not init a peripheral unless it is needed 
> >>>>>>>>>>> for U-Boot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> While U-Boot is running (e.g. a script) it may start up other
> >>>>>>>>>>> peripherals (e.g. to read a kernel from USB) and in those cases 
> >>>>>>>>>>> errors
> >>>>>>>>>>> can be handled by the script.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You can use 'dm tree' to see what devices have been probed 
> >>>>>>>>>>> successfully.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Simon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Simon,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your answer and explanations.
> >>>
> >>> The sequence of boot is :
> >>> RBL->UBL->UBOOT->Kernel->ROOTFS.
> >>>
> >>> According to this sequence, ubl is the one who chooses which uboot needs 
> >>> to be started, then writing the script means writing them inside ubl. 
> >>> However, Ubl doesn't have access to the environment variable  in order to 
> >>> know which u-boot has been used first.
> >>
> >> I don't know what RBL and UBL are.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> My question is .
> >>> Is it possible to choose another u-boot (u-boot2) inside the first u-boot 
> >>> (u-boot1) ?
> >>
> >> Yes you can jump from one U-Boot to another. Something like 'dcache
> >> off; go <addr>' should work.
> > I will implement a timer whenever the kernel won’t start the system will 
> > jump to another u-boot.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Is this correct ?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Simon
> > Thanks for your answer.
>
> When the system is running and we have two uboot in two différents partition, 
> is there a way to check if the second uboot is corrupted ?
>

The VBE system is intended to implement all this, with SPL doing the
check. See [1] for details, but it is still under development.

For now you can script it, by hashing and then using the other one if
the hash is wrong.

Regards,
Simon

[1] https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/develop/vbe.html?highlight=vbe





> Thanks in advance for your answer.

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