A quick comment (though I really shouldn't)

I've seen a bunch of posts come across defending the abilities of those 
without
degrees, and I have no problem with those.  I also agree that having a degree
doesn't guarantee success...

But, it's almost devolved into a "people with degrees are useless" discussion.

Having a degree should NOT be viewed as a negative aspect, but rather, as
a very good thing.   It's not the ONLY thing, and it can't truly replace 
experience,
but someone who spends 4-8 years of their lives learning all they can about a
particular subject should NOT be looked down upon...

Dave ' Proud of his Degree' Meeks

At 09:49 AM 9/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Jeeze people.  I'm sorry I opened my mouth.  Yes, we all can site anecdotal
>examples both pro and con formal education.  I was merely pointing out why
>some PHBs require degrees.  I meant no insult to any individual.  My
>apologies if my remarks did offend.
>
>My last employer required that I finish my degree because, due to market
>realities, they had to pay their programmers the same or more than they paid
>their mechanical and chemical engineers.  The idea was that they could not
>justify paying the same salary as an engineer with a masters degree to
>someone without a degree.

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