On the contrary I never said that degrees are useless or the people that have them, I was just trying to state that one should have an open mind and that those without should not be discredited. Once upon a time it was experience and not the piece of paper that mattered. Those newly graduated struggled to find a position, unable to fullfil the x years of experience requirement. More sides of this coin annoy me (I must be turning into a grumpy old lady) such as companies who will dump seasoned non-degreed experienced people only to replace them with new graduates who are hungry for a job with saving money as the objective...
...and yes...I was proud of my 3.8 GPA -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David T. Meeks Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] [U2] Technical Product Manager opening in Boston (PICK /UniV erse/U2) A quick comment (though I really shouldn't) I've seen a bunch of posts come across defending the abilities of those without degrees, and I have no problem with those. I also agree that having a degree doesn't guarantee success... But, it's almost devolved into a "people with degrees are useless" discussion. Having a degree should NOT be viewed as a negative aspect, but rather, as a very good thing. It's not the ONLY thing, and it can't truly replace experience, but someone who spends 4-8 years of their lives learning all they can about a particular subject should NOT be looked down upon... Dave ' Proud of his Degree' Meeks At 09:49 AM 9/8/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Jeeze people. I'm sorry I opened my mouth. Yes, we all can site anecdotal >examples both pro and con formal education. I was merely pointing out why >some PHBs require degrees. I meant no insult to any individual. My >apologies if my remarks did offend. > >My last employer required that I finish my degree because, due to market >realities, they had to pay their programmers the same or more than they paid >their mechanical and chemical engineers. The idea was that they could not >justify paying the same salary as an engineer with a masters degree to >someone without a degree. ======================================================================== David T. Meeks || "All my life I'm taken by surprise Architect, Technology Office || I'm someone's waste of time Ascential Software || Now I walk a balanced line [EMAIL PROTECTED] || and step into tomorrow" - IQ ======================================================================== ------- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
