Hi,

Many thanks for all of your responses.

As always I have managed to get what I need from within U2 support.

I have to thank John Jenkins and John English for all of their help...
again :)

Its good to know I'm not the only person experiencing these problems.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: David Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 September 2004 22:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] UK U2 Account managers

Hi Ian

The problem is worldwide and have the frustration in Australia as well.
The
problem is that all sales are classified under the DB2 generic for all
database sales whether it is U2, informix, DB2.  The sales guys think
that
the only sales are DB2 and don't want to waste their time with products
that
don't sell.  Unfortunately what they don't know is that U2 makes a
considerable chunk of those sales.   

The good news is that it is slowly changing for the better.  The latest
IBM
Sales training has talked a lot about U2 and IBM has officially
positioned
U2 as part of its database line in product marketing.  Janet Perna (head
of
database software division at IBM) was at a major customer site, was
questioned about someone selling a product to them on UniData, she told
them
that it was an IBM product and a great product to buy.  U2 is supported
from
the top, but it takes time to go down the line.

In the short. have you looked at getting connected to the U2 business
connect program where you can order product and authorization codes over
the
internet & bypass local hurdles.   Soon product will be available for
internet download.

Regards

David Jordan



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Byrne
Sent: Friday, 10 September 2004 9:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [U2] UK U2 Account managers


Hi,



I was wondering if anyone has had success at get anything from within
the UK
from a U2 account manager.



We have had multiple problems getting anything at all out of our manager
and
she is now off sick till the end of the month.



All in all we get nothing from our account manager and have always had
to
ask our US big brother to get one of their account manager to sort
things
out or managed to get what we need from  tech support.



I cannot fault the U2 support department on a plus side for IBM. They
have
always been as helpful as possible and they ALL seem to know that our
account manager is useless.



This really makes me wonder why the hell we are using IBM and U2
products
over our other supplies. EVERYONE else is much easy to contact and to
get
information from (They even return my phone calls!)



They want our business in the UK why is IBM so unable to perform a
similar
kind of level of service?



The last time (in a previous job) we had an IBM person over with our
clients
they tried to sell them DB2! Does the IBM UK not want the U2 products?



I just want to know if we are the only ones experiencing this problem or
is
it much more general?



Regards,



Ian Byrne
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