We're a Datatel client also, and have the same problem. It seems to happen most often when do UniQuery stuff with i-descriptors, especially i-descriptors that call subroutines (not necessarily Datatel subroutines, sometimes the UniData subroutines that are meant to be used in i-descriptors) and/or are multi-valued and/or are in a file with an especially large dictionary with lots of large associations. Unfortunately I have never been able to come up with a specific sequence that causes it to happen. It happened to me about four times yesterday (doing repeated queries on the EMPLOYES file), after going for months (if not more than a year) without it happening to me personally.

At 11:08 AM 02/03/05, you wrote:
Is anyone experiencing sporadic core dumps and have any suggestions to
eliminate them?



I'm running Unidata 6.0.3 on HPUX 11.11.  The hardware is an RP5470 (2
cpus, 6GB memory).   The application software is Datatel's Colleague and
Benefactor.  I have only indirect support from IBM for Unidata (I have
to call Datatel for support).



Datatel first indicates that it may be old compiled code.  I find it
all, and recompile and catalog (if needed) all our custom.  Recompiled
every I-descriptor.  Still get dumps.



Datatel then indicates that it might be level 2 overflow in the files.
I've memresize-d the files and dicts and now udtmon shows no level-2
activity.  Still got dumps, but not as frequently.



Datatel then says it might be index overflows.  I recreate the indexes
with larger node sizes to eliminate overflow reads/writes. Now there is
none.  Still get the occasional dump.



Datatel then says it must be hardware.  There are no errors logged.  I
know hardware monitoring is working since I was getting single-bit
errors reported 6 months ago and replaced affected memory, and a raid
drive failure 9 months ago.



Last Thursday, I have a rash of failures of unidata in a 20 minute
period. I've got dumps of some of the processes.  Not all udt processes
were affected.  No hardware events recorded.  Of the dumps I looked at
the top of the stack was: U_free_varmem(4012EFC0) from U_freevar+0xA4
(or similar).  I did reboot the machine,  no problems.



Guide is run nightly on all accounts and their files using Datatel's
WUFA process. There are no broken files reported and no overflow2
statuses.



Last night I find a powerpoint presentation "Problem Determination
Techniques for Diagnosing UniData Database and System Issues" by Wally
Terhune at the IBM DB2 Info. Mgmt. Technical Conference, Sept 20-24,
2004.  There is a page that says "Working with Unix core files...UniData
engineering likely at fault...".  I am beginning to believe that I'm
just spinning my wheels.



Having come from Prime Information, piopen, and universe environments
where a dump/failure meant you have a problem, these occasional dumps
are frustrating.



Does anyone have any ideas?

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