Now here's something that I can give an opinion on without obvious bias. I fail to see the benefit of a "feature" that allows you to easily circumvent you ERP systems data input process. To easily allow users to export ERP data to a spreadsheet...massage the data...then re-import that data back into the database has at least two obvious problems to me. First, data integrity becomes marginal at best. Second, what is wrong with the ERP input process that requires the data to be changed by another outside process?
Epicor does have apps that integrate back to the ERP database, but the data is run through the input processes as part of that integration. Users are advised that doing updates outside of these processes are done so at their own peril. I don't know about ISO compliance, but easy outside input to the database is frowned upon by the FDA, SEC, and SOX auditors. David Litzau Epicor Technical Support J -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor Marc: It is possible that this sort of data movement is precisely the reason financial information, at numerous companies, is difficult to attest to, let alone use for analysis. :-) When I see this "benefit" (capability), red flags go up all over the place. It's like giving a gun to children...most will be ok but someone __WILL__ get hurt. Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > Being a Manage-2000 client, and having been an Oracle client > in the past > (10.x) and having seen a JD demo I must say of the t1 > suppliers, they did put on a nice show. (They could export > directly to excel, change data, and re import the data back > into the erp) > > :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lettau, Jeff > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > So maybe Advante, Dataflo, infoflo, M2K and the like are not > tier 1 multi-million dollar installs. But for ease of use > and the ability to tweak the system to meet your needs. I'll > take the tier 2 any day. > > Not intending to start an argument, but what can SAP or JD > Edwards do that the smaller Epicor products can't do? What > makes them worth the added cost? I don't' buy into that they > can handle more users. That is mostly a matter of database > management, hardware and infrastructure. > You also have to consider who is buying what system and what > their intensions are. What do you really get out of a > standard SAP or JD Edwards install that you can't get from > any system provided by Epicor or similar smaller priced > package? I'm not being rhetorical.(again spell checker saves > the day, I didn't know a word could start with rh.) > > P.s. you can get the Monitor Series at a Circuit city store > or other high end audio stores near you! You can't seriously > expect me to send you something for free! I can't get stuff > for free. > > Jeffrey Lettau > ERP Systems Manager > polkaudio > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debster > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > Yes...and I was privy to M2K back when it went through ADP > doors and was sold back out again > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen > E. Elwood > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > I believe that Jeff was speaking about Manage-2000. Polk > audio, in addition to making great speakers, is a Manage-2000 > user. Now if I could just get them to send a couple of > studio monitors my way for the plug..... ;-) > > When I was working for M2k under ROI Systems, there were > several companies that choose it over JD, SAP as well as Epicor. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:39 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > X-Squeeze me > > But comparing Avante to JD Edwards & Sap is like putting a > 2.5 foot T-ball player up against Derek Jeter..its not in the > same league > > Avante is not a tier 1 no matter how much you would like to > think that its playing with the big boys... > > -- > Debster > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > There are a few Epicor people that do read this list. They just tend > to > > lay low unless the discussion effects them directly. > > I can say a that there are a few people still in the > Manage-2000 group > > that are very good with the interfaces to U2. > > From my past experience with Epicor, they are a very good > company for > > support, and regardless of how many developers you have, there will > > always be bugs in the software that require patches. Many > times these > > bugs are not evident due to the fact that everyone will use the > software > > slightly different. > > I think their long term plan is to take the many packages they have > and > > migrate them all into one package that is all inclusive and > database > > independent. Although making it database independent may be counter > > productive to their plan on consolidating the software packages. > > > > If you look at who the other choices are for software, I'd > say Epicor > > is still one of the top choices. Especially when you consider the > > flexibility needed in dealing in a manufacturing > environment. What are > > your other choices? JD Edwards? SAP? > > They are also trying to focus on integrating all of their other > packages > > together into a complete solution. Kind of like cross > selling. If you > > run ERP and want CRM then they want to integrate the 2. > > They have many initiatives that are good ideas, in my > humble opinion, > > but it will take them years to make it work. > > > > Jeffrey Lettau > > ERP Systems Manager > > polkaudio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:58 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [U2]: Epicor > > > > Another interesting consideration is seeing no response from anyone > > within Epicor to this thread. That tells me they have little to no > > interest > in > > U2 > > which is a red flag in my book. Certainly implies that they > don't have > > knowledgeable or extensive support for how Epicor interfaces or > doesn't > > with U2 in > > general. > > > > Will Johnson > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
