Now who ever said you were allowed to export, massage, and then reimport with no validation?
Hmmmm...sounds like something I would like to have DONE to me.. -- Debster -------------- Original message -------------- > Now here's something that I can give an opinion on without obvious bias. > I fail to see the benefit of a "feature" that allows you to easily > circumvent you ERP systems data input process. To easily allow users to > export ERP data to a spreadsheet...massage the data...then re-import > that data back into the database has at least two obvious problems to > me. First, data integrity becomes marginal at best. Second, what is > wrong with the ERP input process that requires the data to be changed by > another outside process? > > Epicor does have apps that integrate back to the ERP database, but the > data is run through the input processes as part of that integration. > Users are advised that doing updates outside of these processes are done > so at their own peril. I don't know about ISO compliance, but easy > outside input to the database is frowned upon by the FDA, SEC, and SOX > auditors. > > David Litzau > Epicor Technical Support J > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H. > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > Marc: > > It is possible that this sort of data movement is precisely the reason > financial information, at numerous companies, is difficult to attest to, > let > alone use for analysis. :-) > > When I see this "benefit" (capability), red flags go up all over the > place. > It's like giving a gun to children...most will be ok but someone > __WILL__ > get hurt. > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:41 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > > Being a Manage-2000 client, and having been an Oracle client > > in the past > > (10.x) and having seen a JD demo I must say of the t1 > > suppliers, they did put on a nice show. (They could export > > directly to excel, change data, and re import the data back > > into the erp) > > > > :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lettau, Jeff > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:55 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > > So maybe Advante, Dataflo, infoflo, M2K and the like are not > > tier 1 multi-million dollar installs. But for ease of use > > and the ability to tweak the system to meet your needs. I'll > > take the tier 2 any day. > > > > Not intending to start an argument, but what can SAP or JD > > Edwards do that the smaller Epicor products can't do? What > > makes them worth the added cost? I don't' buy into that they > > can handle more users. That is mostly a matter of database > > management, hardware and infrastructure. > > You also have to consider who is buying what system and what > > their intensions are. What do you really get out of a > > standard SAP or JD Edwards install that you can't get from > > any system provided by Epicor or similar smaller priced > > package? I'm not being rhetorical.(again spell checker saves > > the day, I didn't know a word could start with rh.) > > > > P.s. you can get the Monitor Series at a Circuit city store > > or other high end audio stores near you! You can't seriously > > expect me to send you something for free! I can't get stuff > > for free. > > > > Jeffrey Lettau > > ERP Systems Manager > > polkaudio > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debster > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:50 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > > Yes...and I was privy to M2K back when it went through ADP > > doors and was sold back out again > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen > > E. Elwood > > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 4:27 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > > > > I believe that Jeff was speaking about Manage-2000. Polk > > audio, in addition to making great speakers, is a Manage-2000 > > user. Now if I could just get them to send a couple of > > studio monitors my way for the plug..... ;-) > > > > When I was working for M2k under ROI Systems, there were > > several companies that choose it over JD, SAP as well as Epicor. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:39 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor > > > > > > X-Squeeze me > > > > But comparing Avante to JD Edwards & Sap is like putting a > > 2.5 foot T-ball player up against Derek Jeter..its not in the > > same league > > > > Avante is not a tier 1 no matter how much you would like to > > think that its playing with the big boys... > > > > -- > > Debster > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > There are a few Epicor people that do read this list. They just tend > > to > > > lay low unless the discussion effects them directly. > > > I can say a that there are a few people still in the > > Manage-2000 group > > > that are very good with the interfaces to U2. > > > From my past experience with Epicor, they are a very good > > company for > > > support, and regardless of how many developers you have, there will > > > always be bugs in the software that require patches. Many > > times these > > > bugs are not evident due to the fact that everyone will use the > > software > > > slightly different. > > > I think their long term plan is to take the many packages they have > > and > > > migrate them all into one package that is all inclusive and > > database > > > independent. Although making it database independent may be counter > > > productive to their plan on consolidating the software packages. > > > > > > If you look at who the other choices are for software, I'd > > say Epicor > > > is still one of the top choices. Especially when you consider the > > > flexibility needed in dealing in a manufacturing > > environment. What are > > > your other choices? JD Edwards? SAP? > > > They are also trying to focus on integrating all of their other > > packages > > > together into a complete solution. Kind of like cross > > selling. If you > > > run ERP and want CRM then they want to integrate the 2. > > > They have many initiatives that are good ideas, in my > > humble opinion, > > > but it will take them years to make it work. > > > > > > Jeffrey Lettau > > > ERP Systems Manager > > > polkaudio > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:58 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [U2]: Epicor > > > > > > Another interesting consideration is seeing no response from anyone > > > within Epicor to this thread. That tells me they have little to no > > > interest > > in > > > U2 > > > which is a red flag in my book. Certainly implies that they > > don't have > > > knowledgeable or extensive support for how Epicor interfaces or > > doesn't > > > with U2 in > > > general. > > > > > > Will Johnson > > > ------- > > > u2-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > > ------- > > > u2-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
