This is not correct.  First please put [AD] in your messages if you're trying 
to sell us on your product, otherwise it makes it sounds like you're impartial, 
which you're not.
 
To use MvInternet, the only thing you need to know about is HTML.  I have used 
it and I know nothing about CGI, XML or ECMAscript (i've never heard of this 
last one).  And you only *need* to know the barest information about HTML to 
use it.
 
Will Johnson
Fast Forward Technologies
This is not an ad, I am not connected to any Web connectivity provider.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond DeGennaro II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; Mike Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:51:02 -0500
Subject: RE: [U2] MvInternet


At 10:48 -0400 2005/04/14, Mike Randall wrote: 
>Trying my best to be impartial and simple, I think there are 3 categories 
>of web connectivity products for U2. 
 
I don't want to open up a whole can of worms, so I'll just comment on a few 
points. 
 
mvInternet is a bare connection. You have to parse your own input data, 
maintain your own state and generate everything from the Content-type header to 
the final HTML/XML tag. So it's not 100% a roll-your-own soltion, but you do 
need to know enough about HTTP, CGI, HTML/XML and ECMAScript to generate your 
pages. 
 
I have yet to run into something that I cannot do with Web Wizard. There have 
been some tasks I've not been able to do with pure API calls, but you can very 
easily work directly with HTML and even mix API calls with raw HTML. 
 
Regarding integration, as long as the other tools follow the HTTP/CGI 
standards, Web Wizard works with them. We have customers using Perl, PHP, Cold 
Fusion, Java, JBoss and even DataTel's WebAdvisor to interface with Web Wizard 
programs. At the OS level, it's trivial to make calls to LDAP, post/fetch data 
to remote servers (even using private keys), generate PDF and RTF files, etc.. 
 
Finally, we've not encountered any real scalability problems either and we have 
universities that run their online registration through Web Wizard and that's 
one of the biggest click-fests I can think of. The only times we've come close 
scalability problems have been when the database server is already running at 
nearly it's maximum capacity (CPU load, number of licenses, etc.) and any tool 
would have encountered the same limitations. 
 
Ray 
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