Much dittoing....

I know there have been some changes in the recent versions of U2 to try
to prevent the type of multi-plexing that IBM really had a problem with
- the use of (unlicensed) phantoms to service these requests. Current
versions require phantoms to use a license if they perform certain
functions.

Perhaps this is where the 10 to 1 figure came in. Each U2 user can start
10 phantoms. I know there is/used to be a "4GL" product that ADVERTISED
the fact they used phantoms to help eliminate the purchase of DBMS
users. I can see the vendors having a problem with that. Hence the
recent changes. However, even one of the SVP's at D3 states about the
licensing requirements of PDP.net: "The less persistent your connection,
the more users you can squeeze in." (note trimmed and does not have full
context).

I doubt the IBM support staff on the list will reply to any of these.
Perhaps the user group can lobby IBM to clarify the types of
multi-plexing they would have a problem with.

Just my .02 CDN
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tony Gravagno
>
>Until I saw Dean's posting I was also going to just let it go. 
> The trigger for me was the equating of multi-user license 
>usage to running multiple copies of software on different 
>systems.  Copying software allows more than one person to 
>execute different functions at exactly the same time.

[snip]

>Unless IBM publicly states their position on this topic, takes 
>a developer to court, or just sends a polite "please rethink 
>your license consumption"
>note to someone, we will not know how liberal they are about 
>their licensing, regardless of what their license actually 
>says.  My guess is that no DBMS company will take action 
>unless there is blatent abuse.

[snip]

>I'd also like to get some real numbers on the table.  Some 
>people say you can get 10 users on a single license.  Anyone 
>who has implemented a multi-user environment knows this isn't 
>the case because, as stated above, the first user will connect 
>and you'll have 9 people waiting in line afterward.  A real 
>high performance remote transaction might take about 250ms, 
>plus or minus depending on network bandwidth, which is still 
>only 4 transactions per second.  

[snip]
>Tony
>Nebula R&D
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