On 2/27/06, Brutzman, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I expect that they will post it in the near term at www.javasig.com.
>
> Ben demo'd AJAX techniques by coding from scratch with the IntelliJ IDE on a
> Mac notebook, in front of the ~250 attendees there, an AJAX zip code lookup
> thing.  He talked about synchronous vs asynchronous client-host
> communications.  He talked about Google maps.  While it seems to be the best
> location mapping software, and although there have been a lot of oohs and
> ahhs from the market, he demoed some reverse-engineered 250 lines of code to
> do Google maps can be written by mere mortals in two hours.
>
> While I care about Swing a lot, most of the attendees were more interested
> in web-browser clients.  To wrap up, Ben mentioned the dilema choosing
> between say Swing and AJAX.  Ben indicated that at Sun and other places,
> people are working on frameworks for "filthy-rich clients".  Thus, even
> though the browser clients can be made to be more robust via AJAX
> techniques, multi-media Java tools and clients having much more oomph and
> are expected to appear by say September-2006.
>
> I like Swing-clients for in-house use and browser-clients for remote users.

I was a Swing/java person and have started learning PHP, JavaScript,
xhtml, & css.  I put  a little beginner example out there (running
with OpenQM) with all of the source code at

http://webdev.tincat-group.com/mewsings/personEmail.html

I referred to this as End-to-end AJAX in my blog entry
http://www.tincat-group.com/mewsings/2006/01/who-ordered-ripple-delete.html
.  I like the AJAX approach and I do see it is now viable to write
rich browser-based applications, but I'll admit it is no small thing
to accomplish browser-independence.   Cheers!  --dawn
--
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com

Take and give some delight today!
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