----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:57 AM
Subject: Spam:RE: [U2] U2 / mv.net
capabilities - usually by C# pros wishing to defend their geekiness and
ROTFLOL
I don't think this version of C has been out long enough for anyone to be
considered a pro in it, but if you insist :-)
Strange how you can just change the name or add a character to the name then
all of a sudden it makes it a whole new language. Just like this other
discussion on Cache. You put a new face on an old product and all of a
sudden it becomes the rage. Maybe IBM should consider doing the same with
one of the U2 products and start marketing it under the name DB-1D (Uni = 1,
Data) or DB-UV.
higher fees. But then, 'twas always thus with C++.
In fact, that discussion is just another thing Microsoft have inherited
from
the Borland world when they appropriated Delphi for the design of .NET -
all
those Borland C++ guys (yes it was always guys) trying to pretend C++ was
faster than Delphi. Wrong..
It's really just a matter of personal style and preference. I tend to use
C#
for my own projects and amusement and VB for onsite work - especially if
the
code will eventually be maintained and supported by someone else. It's
just
that little bit easier to read.
I also prefer the VB syntax for purely IDE purposes - the intellisense
works
better when you type
Dim MyVariable as New [and the drop down appears to give you the options ]
as opposed to the C#
[no context for the drop down to appear so you must remember the path
yourself]
System.bloody.long.namespace.path.to.this MyVariable = new [dropdown now
finally appears for] System.bloody.long.namespace.path.to.this();
(As an aside, that's a bit of syntax I've always despised. Why not have a
default constructor that doesn't need you to repeat the class name after
new? How much time/typing would that save?)
And the IDE makes a better job of linking event delegates in VB compared
to
C#. Passing var arguments is more clumsy in C# and annoying after VB. On
the
other hand, the syntax for generics fits more nicely with C#. Ya Pays Ya
Money..
So essentially - if you want to show off use C#. If you want to produce
code
that people can follow, use VB.net. That's really the choice.
At the library level they all work together. So you can always mix and
match
if you have a modular design. I've always done that with native Windows
development - VB wrappers (for the look and feel) around Delphi components
(to do the work) and occasional C++ libraries, drawing on the best skills
of
the developers I had at the time. People can get too hung up on the
languages. What matters - always - is the design: you can produce crap in
any language!
I would learn both VB and C# anyway and widen your options - the real
'work'
in learning .Net is about understanding the framework and design
principles,
and how Windows/GUI/Event oriented applications work anyway. After that,
the
syntax comes second.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: 14 April 2007 10:34
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [U2] U2 / mv.net
I use VB.NET with uniobjects.net- in the end both c# and
vb.net create msil and there is in reality very little
difference. There is a lot of snobbery out there about c# and
vb.net that I would not advise anyone to get involved in ...
Rgds
Symeon.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
Cipollina
Sent: 13 April 2007 13:40
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [U2] U2 / mv.net
Hello,
I'm curious, how many of you that are using .Net are using VB
as opposed to C#? And why?
Thanks,
Nick Cipollina
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
George Hammerle
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:25 AM
To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [U2] U2 / mv.net
Hello,
We are in the process of converting some Unibasic/SB+
applications to VB apps using mv.Net. We are several months
into the project and have learned quite a bit. We have spent
a lot of time on design and have created documentation on
what should and should not be done. I was wondering if there
are any other users that would like to share their
experiences and learn from each other? We are also
implementing Report Services using mv.Net and these reports
are quite impressive.
We are a Unidata / SB+ / Unix shop currently using wIntergrate.
Thank You,
George
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