I already explained the reason the U2 Community list was started. It
was an attempt to keep the Monty Python jokes and other non-technical
discussions from running off a core group of technical people who
were providing the vast majority of answers to problems with the
products. Those people are gone, having moved on to other things and
other companies. Although it seemed right (to me and others) at the
time, I'm not sure it ever worked particularly well.
As I've aged, I've also become more libertarian in my world view. As
just another user these days, I'd say shutdown u2-community. As to
content on u2-users, I agree with the idea of letting things free-
wheel, except when things get abusive. A lot less work for the
moderator(s), too. The technical people with either stay or they won't.
Tagging was another idea borrowed from other lists that was well-
intended, but as we have seen, doesn't seem to work very well. In
part, that is because "to tag or not to tag" is a question of
opinion. Take the statement, "You can use U2 connection pooling, .NET
pooling, or a product like mv.NET (call Fred for info), then you can
etc." Some people would insist it be tagged just because it mentions
a third-party product as a potential solution. Others would say it
needed to be tagged because it committed the capital crime of
soliciting business (call Fred for info). And others see it as not
requiring a tag because, in their opinion, "call Fred for info" is,
in and of itself, one of several potential solutions presented.
These days, I agree with Jeff. I'm in favor of eliminating all
tagging, except for the listserver tag in the subject line which
assists with filtering into folders. Let people write what they want
to write. Let each individual decide what the noise-to-signal ratio
is *for them*. If there are enough kernels that interest them,
they'll stay. If anything of a non-technical nature bugs them,
they'll leave, taking their potential technical knowledge with them.
The list will find its own level. It will either continue to be a
technical resource, or it won't. It will either continue to exit, or
it will fade away and die. That might be sad for some, but it's okay.
Everything does, eventually. Or it might morph into something more
useful than we are thinking about at this point.
I think that's called "evolution."
That's my "vote." I'm done.
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Regards,
Clif
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W. Clifton Oliver, CCP
CLIFTON OLIVER & ASSOCIATES
Tel: +1 619 460 5678 Web: www.oliver.com
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On Sep 6, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Marc Harbeson wrote:
That is my point with the suggestion that we eliminate
u2-community and permit discussions like this one
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