If the company is blocking www.rainingdata.com or www.ibm.com or www.sunsystems.com or any other business-only then there's a bigger problem. I have successfully insisted that I have access to these sites and more as they help me do my jobs for the clients.
I seriously doubt that www.ibm.com would be blocked. We're talking about sites that legimately help in one's job functions, not offer a distraction. If I want some fun, I ain't clicking on www.ibm.com. Also, I'm not engaged as a pure programmer only. Sure, that opens the door, but my additional business knowledge (not mv nor even IT related) is exercised many times during every week with my many clients. My mv/IT skills often implement the business designs and policies that I help create. Mark Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [U2] testing > We have no discrimination around here, if a site is blocked for one it > is blocked for all, including the person blocking it. If you came in > here on a contract you would be treated the same way. Since you would be > on contract I would be surprised if you had any internet access at all. > > Jerry Banker > Sr Programmer Analyst > Affiliated Acceptance Corp > Sunrise Beach, MO > 1-800-233-8483 > www.affiliated.org > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:48 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [U2] testing > > > > Anthony: > > > > Then I must not understand what a 'forum' is. > > > > I use the Raining Data forum http://forums.rainingdata.com/ all the > time > > (some say too much). > > > > This page has the RD 'products' (D3 NT, D3 Aix, D3 Linux, MvBase etc) > neatly > > illustrated like a table of contents and shows the latest posting. > > > > Clicking on a 'product' will give you a listing of the topics within. > It > > also shows you the technical announcements and any other top-down > > information. > > > > Within the topics themselves, you can see the different topics with > the > > originator, number of views and replies and the time/date of the > latest > > reply. > > > > This forum is spared a bunch of the static that an email forum offers. > There > > are no redundant posts, no comments about trimming extraneous email > content, > > no 'Fred is out of the office" problems, etc. The topics may take a > > non-related tangent but not as pervasive as on the U2 one. > > > > By seeing the latest date for each thread, you can quickly see if the > thread > > interests you and if the reply is considered 'new'. > > > > As one who participates on both, the RD one more organized. Ask TonyG. > He's > > quite visible on both as well. > > > > While this forum is web-based and an email forum is not, I don't buy > the > > argument that employers (clients) prevent internet access by their > employees > > as a reason to not participate. > > > > Many of my clients have baracuda or other content blocking firewalls > etc > > that I simply am not restricted with. I am considered middle to upper > > management by all of my clients as well as many 'employee' programmers > > should be. We are not the low man on the office totem pole. > > > > I've got some clients that sharpen their pencil more than most that > allow me > > full access to the internet despite instituting strong-armed policies > about > > employees mis-using the internet on company time. It's a trust thing. > I'm a > > huge ebay participant and would not dare be caught doing ANYTHING with > ebay > > at a client's site on their dime. > > > > My 1 cent > > Mark Johnson > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [U2] testing > > > > > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Haskett > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > > >Wol: > > > > > > > >I just don't get this attitude. Why is it necessary to pick up our > toys > > and go home? > > > >To say, "if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team"? > There are > > too many > > > >postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a > complicated > > mess of > > > >things. > > > > > > I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or > snatch > > > moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I > have > > > better things to do with my time (like working :-) > > > > > > At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a > solution > > > in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho > this > > > is one of those situations. > > > > > > I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out - > there > > > ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused > > > while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the > > > reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Wol > > > -- > > > Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking > the > > > thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. > The > > man > > > lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' 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