Your doomed.

John Israel
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Dayton, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JPB-U2UG
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [U2] converting from UniVerse on Redhat Linux to UniVerse on 
Windows

Actually 99% of our business data and logic is contained on the Universe
database but 90% of the fluff that connects to it is in windows. This has
created a problem in that the majority of personnel dedicated to the fluff
far exceeds the number of personnel dedicated to UV, and there's power in
numbers.
The problem Brenda is talking about started just before I started with the
company and caused us to loose the manager and a couple of other UV
programmers. Unfortunately I came in during the middle of it with a signed
contract that said I wouldn't leave for at least a year. I had to learn
their applications very rapidly and finally found that everything that went
wrong was due to screwed up cross reference files that had multiple entries
making the reports all come out with double or triple entries. The data was
not wrong it was just reporting wrong. I created programs to rebuild the
cross reference files, tested the reports for accuracy, and was happy to
tell the new manager that the problem was fixed when he walked in the door.
I celebrated my 10th year with the company in May.
You tell me, how difficult would it be to convert close to 40 GB of data in
thousands of files all of which have multi-valued and some sub-multi-valued
data, to SQL Server tables. Plus over 4000 programs to access, manipulate,
display, or print the data.

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From: "Brenda Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:45 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [U2] converting from UniVerse on Redhat Linux to UniVerse   on
Windows

>>>If, on the other hand, your U2 system and processes make up much more
> than 1% of your
> business IT, which can easily be imagined because SQL and OO
> infrastructure is
> bloated beyond belief, then realize you can pretty much do anything with
> MV.  It is a
> far, far, far better platform for transaction processing than anything
> else you can
> imagine.<<
>
> We are a billing and collections company, UniVerse runs that.  We also
> sell a VisualFoxPro software that clients can use to run their Martial
> Arts, Tanning Salons, Health Clubs on, checking customers in and for
> those who want to handle the billing themselves, do the billing.  For
> those who want us to do the billing, that data is uploaded into our
> UniVerse system. We have clients that do not have the VFP software that
> we do billing and collections for, and clients that use our Windows
> terminal services so that the data is in one repository at our site
> running the VFP software, that data is also uploaded into the UniVerse
> system for billings and collections. Everything except our old dialer
> and UniVerse is on a Windows platform.  That said, UniVerse is the core
> of the business. You break that and you break the business.  In fact
> about 10-11 years ago, they did do something that screwed up the reports
> where nothing matched for several months and almost folded because of
> that.  I don't know the exact details since I've only been here about 7
> years.
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