<Allen steps up to the soapbox> As someone that's done *quite a bit* of both the remote programmer gig (11 years) as well as on site (23 years), I think it's very interesting that people will balk at spending 1 to 2 hours for a kickoff meeting with a programmer on the speaker phone or even skype video, while they think *nothing* of spending that much time face to face.
Even half an hour a day over skype or phone *during the thickest part* of working out a <<<HUGE>>> project seems excessive to some, while the same people will spend that much time *or more* next to the coffee maker just blabbing about the latest snooze topics. In my experience, it's the NOT the distance - it's the amount of TIME AND ATTENTION that one spends tending to the questions of the programmer that makes or breaks projects and deadlines. It's the quality of the thought that goes into the words that are exchanged that makes the difference. I've had onsite and offsite clients that understood this and they received quality work on time!!! Other onsite and offsite clients that didn't want to spend the time or just blurted out incorrect answers to end the questioning.... received finished projects that matched the quality of their answers and the quantity of their time invested. As Rodney Dangerfield once said "I don't get no respect" and this perhaps could be the slogan of the 'work from home' programmers of the world. I suspect that as monstrously large and cheap paper thin monitors you can hang on the wall like a piece of paper become the norm and bandwidth reaches the trillion bits per second range, that people will ***still*** say they prefer face to face because they can't *smell* the person as well over *UBER HD* skype of the future ;-) <Allen steps off the virtual soapbox> Btw, the paper thin flexable plastic monitors exist but they're still working the kinks out of mass production. Coming soon to a wall near you... Allen *currently doin' the on site gig in a tiny smelly cube* Elwood -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:47 AM To: U2 Mail List Subject: Re: [U2] .NET Developer > I spoke with Bob Rasmussen a few months ago over Skype and he had a > camera on his computer. A bit "Max Headroom" but face-to-face. :-) > > Bill > > P.S. If you're moving software to the web, or not, you might check > with Bob. Print Wizard is pretty cool and well supported...and the > price is right! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Symeon Breen said the following on 9/10/2009 12:32 AM: >> Its an interesting one - i still have found it very difficult without a real >> heap of specification work to not have a face to face with contractors... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett >> Sent: 09 September 2009 16:58 >> To: U2 Mail List >> Subject: Re: [U2] .NET Developer >> >> >> >> [email protected] said the following on 9/9/2009 6:54 AM: >> >>> The message's content type was not explicitly allowed >>> >>> Sorry Symeon... west coast - USA. But I've worked with a number of >>> consultants from the east coast of the US to the British Isles to the >>> Balkan states to India to Australia to Hawaii. I've found the time >>> zone is much less of an issue than quality of the consultant. I've >>> been told there are millions of .NET developers but have found very >>> few qualified to work on business applications. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Symeon Breen said the following on 9/9/2009 2:08 AM: >>> >>>> Sorry Bill - what country are you in ? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett >>>> Sent: 08 September 2009 18:30 >>>> To: U2 Mail List >>>> Subject: [U2] .NET Developer >>>> >>>> I thought I'd let the list know that I've been using a .NET programmer >>>> to help with one of our applications. We use mv.NET and UniData with >>>> this application and this consultant is very responsive and, like all >>>> others, is looking for additional work. >>>> >>>> If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll give you his name and >>>> number off list. >>>> >>>> Bill Haskett _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list [email protected] http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list [email protected] http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
