My constant struggle is trying to get end-users here to tell me what they want - they always want to tell me what we have - which of course I already know.
Now that the picture has changed, U2UG has an opportunity to consider what we want. I seem to remember some DE tech manual pages having to do with integration with WebSphere. Now, other technologies like say Spring, could have a new role. --Bill -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:25 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] GOOD NEWS From Susie George, I think Dawn's emphasis was on survive, and that doesn't necessarily mean thrive. To my ears the Rocket business plan for "legacy" products sounds more like running a rest home for no longer wanted technology They keep it alive as long as there is a profit to be made from licence and support fees, and when that runs out they let it pass away.. The U2 products will "survive" OK, but all we're most likely going to get in future are maybe some patches but no new development. Nobody buys a business to kill it? Do hedgefonds managers know that too? George Land wrote: > 'It's being so cheerful that keeps me going' > > Maybe the world is going to end, but this is an initiative that is > fully supported by Susie and her team, maybe even initiated by them. > > You don't buy a business to kill it. There are no assets to strip, > all that matters is getting revenue from new licenses and maintenance. > Rocket have a track record of preserving and developing the companies > they buy, as Dawn said 'It doesn't look like a place that products go > to die, but a place they go to survive' > > If you want to be a pessimist that is your prerogative, but there is > nothing here to say the future is worse than it was at the start of > the week > > George > > On 16/09/2009 21:41, "Mecki Foerthmann" <mec...@gmx.net> wrote: > > >> I hope you are right. >> >> But what if they are not even interested in selling new seats and are >> quite happy to collect licence and support fees without doing any new >> development? >> After all this is corporate America and acquisitions are not >> necessarily made to drive a product forward. >> IBM can show some positive figures for the next quarter, share prices >> might go up and managers can expect nice bonuses and sell some stock >> options. >> And for Rocket it may just be another legacy system they acquire and >> keep supported as it is their business plan. >> Since Universe and Unidata are so stable, they should be able to do >> that with very little staff. >> And a little asset-stripping may more than recover the purchase costs. >> So everybody wins as far as the investors are concerned. >> Who cares about the members of the U2 team, VARs and their staff or >> us MV-professionals who work for U2 end users? >> >> I prefer to be a pessimist - at least that way you never get >> disappointed; and if you happen to be wrong it is always to the better ;-). >> >> >> George Land wrote: >> >>> Personally I view it as a very good sign that they are taking a back >>> seat and letting the U2 people get their message out to their >>> customers. Sure a message from the new owners is needed soon but >>> not doing it up front is a sign that they are interested letting the >>> team get on with the business without getting too much in the way >>> >>> George >>> >>> >>> On 16/09/2009 19:33, "Charles Stevenson" <stevenson.c...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Chuck, >>>> Impress upon Rocket the need for THEM to make a public statement. >>>> It's nice to hear news from you & from Susie, and I look forward to >>>> reading whatever you post, but, come on, Rocket! the new owners >>>> need to say something. >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> I've been speaking to an executive at Rocket and more calls are >>>>> being scheduled. What I've heard so far is vague (legal reasons) >>>>> but very upbeat. The next call should contain some genuine news. >>>>> As I get it, you will get it and it will be posted on U2UG.org. >>>>> >>>>> - Charles "Staying On The Hunt for Details" Barouch >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> U2-Users mailing list >>>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >>>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> U2-Users mailing list >>> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >>> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> U2-Users mailing list >> U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org >> http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
