Correct, I have not used either.

but even if they do allow creation, you still have to know what the data is,
  it's purpose in life to accurately define a dict item.

Do those programs also scan the entire file to determine what the highest 
attribute
   number is? (I use an idesc "dcount(@record,char(254))", then list the file 
by.dsnd)
   otherwise, he may have more than 3 hidden fields.

George



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:03 PM
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?
>
> Both tools allow dictionary item creation.  Of course, you would know
> that
> if you had tried either one.
>
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